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Nah, yah gotta turn him loose and let him run, it's in his nature. Like to see the Hound again, as I can belay up to, and am certified for 5.13, I'm good to go if all that ice work has made him strong! Fer Sure! BTW, Ms Kennedy was a nice addition to the usual crusty old salts you normally are dragging along.

Trying to think how that might play out: "Damnit: I've had these shoes for 3 years and one has developed a serious hole in the sole. I want my money back."

Nice pic of Hood. Played hookey today to get some runs in with the pup. Pup is almost faster than me now, he's growing up fast. Might have to spring for some pure downhill racing boards strictly to keep up. Great day in some respects - to be skiing on the Mt anyway....., not in others...I sat on the lift and saw the Sherrifs Piper Cub circling Hood when the upper lift stopped working for 15-20 min. "Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry." Nice pics JF. You pulling plastic Thursday at Milf?

Dru, Choda boy says cameras not tilted now.

Was it the Aliens with the dot? Those will have the heads fall off of them.

oh, don't tell that Steven Seegal dude either, he'll be all over it for a long time.

Huh? Use to? I'm not sure what happened between you guys, but I'd like to thank you for keeping it quiet, personal, and between you.

Those guys were a lot closer to the truth anyway Landshark. More entertaining as well. ____________________________________________________________ plumber ......Who? Who's there?.......... plumber There's nothing wrong with my plumbing, and I didn't call a plumber. ...................... Candygram..........

I'm working on it.

Damn it's nice to see someone else getting on something! I think the rest of the board is going stir crazy either worrying about the climbers on Mt Hood, or all the shitheads showing up with 1 or 2 posts which are unbeliveably stupid and or arrogant. BTW, in keeping with the boards current groove and attitude: you misspelled Phat, asshole. ie.

After this entire media circus have you not learned this 1 irrefutable fact: ie, that the media will use whatever you send them to back up what they have already decided to print. They have a slant and will use your stuff to support it. So my thoughts are thusly: FUCK THEM

Only speaking for myself, I've found Decristos posts amazingly creative and interesting, (with an exception or 2), keep it coming Decristo. BTW MattP, all of us feel horrible and bad about the events on the Mt. Some of the posters are up there helping. I want to state it openly and right now, like Ivan said: when I'm toes up, and it comes soon enough for us all, you pricks better be drinking and telling interesting stories about me. I'm fine with the tears, but there better be some tears of joy too or I'm sending that Seagal poster down (OK, or up here, in his case) to kick some ass. It's not about those 2 left on the Mt, I'm not telling the relatives how to handle that kind of pain, it's about ME. Life is an eyeblink for us all.

You must have caught the new O'Reilley show "Extra Spin". In it, O'Reilley advocates not having "Americans of African descent" people in the country as they cost us so much. He then proceeds to detail how New Orleans - which was made up predominantly of "Americans of African descent" people, cost us so much money in the recent Katrina debacle, which, O'Reilley claims, cost the rest of us $200 Billion dollars. Hard to argue with a guy who's head is so far up his ass that his voice is muffled, better to just shut down everything. Next on the "Extra Spin" hit list: Hiking, recreational driving, vacations, Snowmobiling, walking around town without a purpose, browsing bookstores and Mt Biking. After all, if they can keep the public off of public property, ie that which WE the users already OWN, if they can keep us off what is ours by ownership: then they are better able to control us. Of course, there would have to be a massive new gov't department to head this up to determine what should be closed to hikers and climbers and when, then to conduct security and enforcement on the Mt's, and that won't be cheap either. Hey, it's only money eh?

My roomate was just on my computer, anything interesting been happening?

Whoa dude, lighten up. ________________________________________

OMG, is that a "compliment"?!! Dear lord, what did ya do to Dwayner? well you were brilliant even dwayner has to admit to brilliance when he reads it OMG Beers on me next time Muff!

Posted on page 15 and brought forward. Best post in quite a while babachu, thanks for the reminder. We all can understand the extreme pain that the family is in. However, we climbers realize that all of us will die all too soon. Too many of us involved in these kind of active sports, by our own hand. We only get one shot at life, and these guys were doing it. We have no choice as for us it is only to live life to the hilt. We are reminded of our mortality all too frequently, sadly like when brothers like these are not with us any longer. For those of us with memories of nearly biting the big one via hypothermia, it may be one of the very best ways to go, almost a pleasant experience as both the cold and any memory of cold or suffering slides away, leaving you in a very pleasant stupor. Whatever else you can say for these guys, certainly they went down like brothers we would all like to have climbed with: taking care of the injured man and ensuring his (relative) safety, like true climbers. Like brothers. Considering the unimaginable crazy weather that these men must have been battling against with all of their lives and might....it had to be a story we will never know of stoic, quiet, desparate heroism and fight. Bless them all.

Wow, you nailed one, street cred improvement for wet-spotter! Nice call Dru. Heres another painful one to avoid: The Todd Skinner corporation improvement book called "Beyond the Summit: Setting and Surpassing Extraordinary Business Goals". Love Todd, but hate the book until the end where he finally puts some focus on the climb of the Tower. Until then, it seemed like a cheap imitation of Jerzy Kosinkis great novel "Being there" with Todd playing Chance the Gardner.

Powderhound is back in town, and has freetime in case anyone wants to hook up with some high quality weekday company.

OMG, is that a "compliment"?!! Dear lord, what did ya do to Dwayner?

Adding to some pretty good comments up there: IMO, for what you are doing, before you get to pickets and deadmens, I would train train train on self arrests and boot-axe belays until your muscles are totally trashed. You and your buddies. I always tried to avoid tying in with anyone who hadn't spent at least a day practicing this. Training on self arrests may best be achieved by tying in at the base of a nice, steep, good run-out slope (a steep canyon with no rocks at the base, but a gentle u-shape for instance) and having 3 or 4 buddies - after you've hiked up the thing a bit, with no warning - run backwards as fast and as sudden as they can, in unison, trying to pull you off. You then need to practice getting into postion fast and stopping them as they continue to pull. Knowing this alone will work wonders for your confidence. I think, (but I've never used one as they came in after I'd pretty much stopped doing big mountains) if you can figure out a GPS unit and how to navigate with it alone, you pretty much have every Mt. safetly cruised if you head up in good conditions. I'd still take a compass, map and altimeter in case the GPS tweaks in bad weather. I totally agree with the helmet comment. I own 2 and although I rarely ever use them rock climbing although I sometimes carry them a bit on the pack, I NEVER get on or near a mountain without having one on my head at all times unless I'm sleeping. Rocks and ice will show up and wizz by suddenly with alacity at very strange times. Practice hiking with a heavy load too, I've know runners who could race 15 miles who would get trashed walking less than a mile in ankle deep snow with 30 lbs on their backs, and your conditioning is a critical thing you cannot ignore in the mountains. The comment on using your brain is soooooo true.

Sigh, ya see how that works Woodsgirl, on cue and with lightspeed G-spotter shows up and needs an ass kicking. At least he left the picture of the sheep out this time!

The board is a lot like the real world in that way. Plenty of great people, and plenty of dicks too. It's nice to sort out who you wouldn't mind doing an extended backcountry trip with online before you are stuck in a snow cave with a Donghead who yammers crap 24/7. Welcome to the board.

Thanks Reddirt, I've got a #6 monster Camalot on the way.