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Thats what I thought about Clinton who promised he'd do it in 5 years. As he was following an alleged "fiscal conservative" who had been spending us into a shithole, I was dubious. But by God I was wrong and he did it! Big respect. Obama would have a better shot at completing it than McCain based on the Iraq war funding alone, but it's nice to see it get on the political radar now, it should have been there all along.

You aren't part of this new trend of hiring them illegal aliens to do your climbing and tag the summits for you are you? Cause I might want to get in on that. Climbing is hard work.

Both of you fuckers stop swearing at each other. PS, thank you both for the info~!

Cobra is back! You been posting as Prole or No 13 or some damn thing? You've been MIA.

Isn't the other name of that law the "Dicksucking" law? It's not the "Basset Hound lap" law. BTW, Kyle told me this weekend that the Clackamas River put in (for rafting) was ALWAYS being hit with car breakins. ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Till some Navy Seals who rafted in their free time staked it out once and beat some pricks ass that night. There has not been a break in since. Not one.

What pills or brand do you recommend? I was drinking Acceleraid on the weekeend, and I'm taking a Calcium-Magnesium supplement on occasion called Calm, but forgot to bring it.

We could all upgrade our status immensely by moving to Tuscany and living the good life! What's Cillys address I'm heading over and moving in his basement:-)

I had seen a barn owl like this last year in that vicinity. Pretty birds. Last warehouse we had we often had one come in and hang out. Had lots of birds visit on occasion. Swallows, a Kestrl, a Peacock......

Good video either way. Sometimes when I climb, I notice that I have music in my head. This seems to be especially true when I'm in that real sweet "Flow" state. However, I have my own favorite riffs going, maybe a new good song, but usually old same as it ever was lame shit like Zepplin, Beatles, or Jethro Tull running in low volume back there. I love all that stuff. So if, when Doug or these guys are climbing, they have that kind of shit newer music that young folks like today going in real time banging at loud volume inside their heads as they are on the rock: I totally understand playing that on a vid and duplicating that experience for us and their buddies on a vid. If that isn't happening in real life, then putting it on a vid is done for another reason, and Dawg has a point. I cannot say which way this is in this case, although I'm sure these folks know. It's probably just about getting a stoke going. Meantime, some old gummers like Raindawg and I are usually, but not always, astute enough on the technology front to find the volume and turn it down a bit if we get bothered, and not yet lucky enough to just know which way the lens of a video camera gets pointed. Until we progress past cro-magnum technology, we will have to make due with others videos. Like this one. So thanks for sharing it! Love that sweet sweet granite, and dude was sooo super smooth wired. Great stuff. Dawg, when can we see a Dawg video production with some Vivaldi or Mozart??

What was the "Moose on the Table" you refered too here Porter. I'd have expected an explanation by now. We all know that the moose represents an issue that everyone knows is a problem but isn't being addressed. What is the reference here? Is this another CCH Alien bash?

Look, I feel for the poor Poles who've been fucked over so bad by so many. But the reality is that the United Kingdom pledged the support of itself and France to guarantee Polish independence in early 1939 right after the Nazi's signed a pact with Stalin. This didn't stop or slow the invasion which occured that very year. Now, with the tactical Nuclear missile arsenal that the Russians bring to the table, IF I WAS A POLE, I'd be damn concerned about making myself a nuclear target via a pact like this. But I'm not a pole so cannot say for sure how I'd feel in my heart. I wish them the best though, they deserve it after being fucked over for so long.

Is that closer to string theory or quantum mechanics? I know so few big words that when I have a chance I have to use them, in which case they are often mis-spelled. Like Emily Latila - the old Saturday Night Live skit wherein she mis-heard the word Presidential Elections as Presidential ERECTIONS, and spent 5 min ranting on "Whats all the big deal about Presidential ERECTIONS? until she was corrected by Chevy Chase on the correct phraseology. "Emily", Chevy said "it's Presidential Elections ....Presidential Elections. Emily quietly muttered, as the finale: "Nevermind". I stand corrected: cosmetology Nevermind.

Yeah, good dude for sure, he must have been toast today. Hope you got some mileage in or out of him, I was sorry to have bogged out on him today, but just too beat. I woke up at 3am Friday night, crawled out of my sleeping bag to a light rain and had both legs on my inside thighs cramp up severely. Trying to pee with legs cramping as you stumble around in the dark: hmmm, it's a classic memory that's for sure! Then we again worked the thighs all that day wandering hither and thither. They are still sore now - but the family and I did a short hike up to Hardy Falls with minimal pack weight to work out the kinks today and then I fell asleep like an old man in the easy chair right after dinner. Great day for Beacon!

I liked it Bob. However, as I have a 3-5 min. attention span and that only lasted 54 seconds....it was good but too short.

Noice! I wonder if some of these folks are gonna look back in 15-20 years and think "What the hell was I thinking with that music?"

That's hot.

Heather Mills reportedly charged 10,000 pounds a night.... as a hooker. I can't believe you'd pay that Hugh. Frankly - that kind of thing should be totally decriminalized and 100% legal. With that kind of competition you'd most likely see Mrs. Sir Pauls wage go from $10,000 to somewhere over a sawbuck a throw I'd bet. So here's the update since the Eliot Spitzer Hooker got her 15 min of fame and needs another 5 min before she checks out forever. Girl's crawl back under their rock video says: "Sat Jul 5, 12:21 PM ET MIAMI - The call girl involved in a scandal that brought down New York's former governor has dropped a lawsuit claiming "Girls Gone Wild" founder Joe Francis exploited her image and name on the Internet. Ashley Dupre voluntarily dismissed the $10 million federal lawsuit, according to court documents filed Thursday. She said she was only 17 when she signed a binding contract giving permission to appear in the "Girls Gone Wild" video. Telephone calls and e-mails to Dupre's lawyer and publicist were not immediately returned Friday. Francis said in a statement issued late Friday night that "the truth invariably comes out, as I knew it would in this case. I am happy to, once again, be completely vindicated." In her lawsuit, Dupre said she was on spring break in Miami Beach in 2003 when she was approached by "Girls Gone Wild" producers, given alcoholic drinks and then signed a release agreeing to appear. The series depicts women in provocative poses or topless, often in such party locations as Mardi Gras or spring break beach towns. Francis has said Dupre was on the "Girls Gone Wild" bus for a week and made seven full-length videos. Shortly after the lawsuit was filed, Francis released a video where Dupre appears covered by a terry cloth towel and gives her name as Amber Arpaio. An unseen questioner asks if she is 18 and if the footage can be used on "Girls Gone Wild." She says yes to both questions. The video also displays a New Jersey driver's license with the Amber Arpaio name and a birth date that would have made her appear to be in her 20s. Dupre rocketed to fame in March when she surfaced as a high-priced call girl in the Emperors Club VIP prostitution ring that involved then-New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, who resigned soon after the scandal broke. Dupre, going by the name "Kristen," met "Client 9" — later identified as Spitzer — at least once at a swanky Washington hotel, according to court documents. After the Spitzer scandal, Francis made a public $1 million offer for Dupre to appear in one of his videos and go on a promotional tour. But he rescinded the offer after realizing he already had footage of her. Francis has other legal problems, including federal tax evasion charges pending in California and lawsuits by filed by women in Panama City, Fla., claiming they were victims of underage exploitation. Francis spent a year in jail and was released in March after pleading no contest to child abuse and prostitution charges for filming underage girls in that Panhandle beach town." Frankly, I'd like to see a lawsuit over this lawsuit,that would settle the last 2 min of fame. Cept I like sot of the pictures and would like them to stick around: for more than the requisite 15 min. But that's me anyway.

Played too hard last 2 days.

Need a day off. This is it.

For now. So sore and tired.

Thanks for the long and through post Mike. Iran, on a map, is surprisingly quite some distance from Poland. If I was Moscow.....I mean, they can easily retarget a few of their many thousand ballistic missiles, nuclear tipped, to head to these Polish locations, and what happens if 5-7 years from now, the US and Russia tussle over something like the Oil fields in the Caucuses .... ? Question to Bob: doesn't inviting the US onto Polish soil make Poland both a new threat and a new target now?

Amen Brother Sister. But I thought Jesse Helms was over 100 ? Sure looked it, maybe it was the Strom Thurman school of cosmology he attended for grooming tips that got him that aged look?

The meat and potato excerpt! "10 am: The Bolivian officers are faced with the question of what to do with Che. The possibility of prosecuting him is ruled out because a trial would focus world attention on him and could generate sympathetic propaganda for Che and for Cuba. It is concluded that Che must be executed immediately, but it is agreed upon that the official story will be that he died from wounds received in battle. Félix Rodríguez receives a call from Vallegrande and is ordered by the Superior Command to conduct Operation Five Hundred and Six Hundred. Five hundred is the Bolivian code for Che and six hundred is the order to kill him. Rodríguez informs Colonel Zenteno of the order, but also tells him that the U.S. government has instructed him to keep Che alive at all costs. The CIA and the U.S. government have arranged helicopters and airplanes to take Che to Panama for interrogation. However, Colonel Zenteno says he must obey his own orders and Rodríguez decides, "to let history take its course," and to leave the matter in the hands of the Bolivians. (Anderson, 795; Harris 128, 129; Rodríguez:1, 193; Rodríguez:2) Rodríguez realizes that he cannot stall any longer when a school teacher informs him that she has heard a news report on Che’s death on her radio. Rodríguez enters the schoolhouse to tell Che of the orders from the Bolivian high command. Che understands and says, "It is better like this ... I never should have been captured alive." Che gives Rodríguez a message for his wife and for Fidel, they embrace and Rodríguez leaves the room. (Rodríguez:2; Anderson, 796) According to one source, the top ranking officers in La Higuera instruct the noncommissioned officers to carry out the order and straws are drawn to determine who will execute Che. Just before noon, having drawn the shortest straw, Sergeant Jaime Terán goes to the schoolhouse to execute Che. Terán finds Che propped up against the wall and Che asks him to wait a moment until he stands up. Terán is frightened, runs away and is ordered back by Colonel Selich and Colonel Zenteno. "Still trembling" he returns to the schoolhouse and without looking at Che’s face he fires into his chest and side. Several soldiers, also wanting to shoot Che, enter the room and shoot him. (Harris, 129) Félix Rodríguez has stated that, "I told the Sargento to shoot....and I understand that he borrowed an M-2 carbine from a Lt. Pérez who was in the area." Rodríguez places the time of the shooting at 1:10 p.m. Bolivian time. (Rodríguez:2) In Jon Lee Anderson’s account, Sergeant Terán volunteers to shoot Che. Che's last words, which are addressed to Terán, are "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, you are only going to kill a man." Terán shoots Che in the arms and legs and then in Che's thorax, filling his lungs with blood. (Anderson, 796)"

It's Baraks recent quote Kevin regarding his Iraq pullout plan or lack thereof. It appears to be a pronouncement of an excuse to flip-flop on the issue.

NC, I climbed with a kid Saturday who had just been climbing at Looking Glass, he said that it kicks ass! Hope you can make it out there. from the interweb