whirlwind

nah they just need me, to catch as few td's thats all

male climbers prayer; may every day be filled with cracks to jam, cracks to smoke, cracks to , warm days, cold beers prarana toped belayslaves and to chase in crack i trust amen

do your balls hang low do they wobble to and fro, can you tie them in a not, can you tie em in a bow...

thanks bud, and if things work out their will always be a place for ya allz to crash in southern cali

good point but i don't know, there are a shit load of posers in bellingham like me i only climb 5.8a thats why i was pissed cause i coun't figure out how to make the blue tape route (the 5.8b+) into a straight 5.8a- so i tryed and got really pumped cause the belayer gave me shitty beta, and i pitched cause i did it the 5.8+ way, or was it the 5.8b way, shit now i'm all confused damit.

ok so i'm in the gym this evening and i notice one of the routes is rated 5.8b+, now what the f##@ does that mean? i mean come on is it 5.8 till unless you don't use the yellow hold, then its 8b and if you don't use the yellow or the green one it becomes 5.8b+

lol oly. but really it may all be a set up, look who has gainded the most and then notice that these are the people that very well could make that kinda shit happen? but who knows,

if you standing still yeah but not driving by the san diego air port is one of the worst in the nation i lived in the landing/ take off path of the plaines in san diego, besides look at the debree in the first pic u posted the ruble on the left looks like engine pieces, are they from a 747 engine or a smaller engine? anyway btw at one hundred ft the sound isn't that muffled at a couple thousand you can still hear them from inside a house pretty well.

it happend pretty fast is the point i was trying to make, they could have mistaken. at 100ft there would be one hellofa jet wake and ear shatering noise? but who knows your right i wasn't there but i think if i was i could have precived wrong under the circumstances, because i have seen jets fly over at low altitude and at a glimpse it is hard to tell the actual size or type espcally if the color and markings are identical but like i said i wasn't their, so i will remain skeptical till it is proven one way or the other

i can understand the suplies but why would they need to be rescued? seems like a waste of time and money as long as their are capable, 250ft is like 2-3 raps,

1)dosn't look like enough wreakage, 2) if the plane hit the ground engines first it would have endowed sending the nose into the ground and the tail over the top of the walls posibly. 3) if it is a conspirisy why not high jack the plane and land it somewhere else is their an air force base or any other field large enough to land a jet on, close to where the other one "disapeared", don't for get the military also has the technology to block radar. 4) a oject flying by at 500+ miles per hr may seem larger or smaller to a person in a car going 60, did they expiriance any jet wake? 5)what did the people see on the hotel cameras and why the hell havn't they said anything?

would be nice to see the other films thats for sure

i can't see the pics

anyone need on i'm leaving no sooner than the 29th and planing on being down there by the 5th of dec, with climbing and other such nosence on the way down. btw this trip is one way only less you can stay till feb

ok lets go bill

lets go then

i have time and gear but no rope pm me if intrested index 11worth or what ever E

index? or 11worth? i'm free saturday and sunday maybe monday as well

i'll with ya on sunday but i have to work tomorrow, sorry bud

question is who is going to try and marry fern first... fern

"Gods original plan was to sit around a garden with a bunch of naked vegitarians"

yup i'm stuck in the ham

if i can get a ride i'll go for either or both

well...i'm shy and am not comfortable walking up to a person and asking them to belay me or vice versa...and bouldering is nice but kills my tendons and ruins my outdoor climbing if I do it too much....i know it strengthens...but i'm such a newbie i need balance...sooo...thats why I post for gym partners anyways. i don't want ot be too mean cause i don't know ya but get over it, personaly i think its safer to ask someone for a belay in a gym beacuase you can watch them while they are belaying someone else and see if they are good or not. posting on line and just asumeing someone you have never meet or been able to observe, can climb and or belay is not so good, less you know someone who has climbed with that person. just my 2 cents

i know thats where the coment came from