JoshK

BWAHAHHAAHAHAH

Personally I would say yes, but perhaps I'm just expecting the grades to tell me something that you aren't. The climb of cathedral is going to require more of a time commitment, require me to plan on a larger weather window to climb in, and put me farther from help should something happen.

True, I'll give ya that one In any event, anybody who goes and tries to climb something on beta that I said I "thought* I saw from a mile away deserves what they get

I completely agree with Matt. I think it's odd to not want to include the approach. If I am talking about the overall effort and wear and tear on me as a climber I expect the grade to include all this. If we start leaving out the approach, what next? climate? altitude?

$67 million? Looks like the record nazis got off easy.

It had large gaping cracks and sheets of ice missing. Maybe you need some new glasses. I think it had more to do that there was a line of cars behind and I glanced at it from the driver's seat doing 60mph

WTF can't you drink?

BWAAHAHAH

Yup! We did. I was going to mention you guys by name, but I couldn't remember the entire group. Now that you have, I can certainly give you a hearty thanks. The trail rocked up until that point! Going from a packed trail to nutz deep postholing certainly was a sad moment.

I say if this happens we band up a mob and set fire to Tim Eyman's house.

I can say "ditto" for basically everything lambone said. I use a 5.5 spectra cordelette on rock, and I find it really useful for slinging giant chockstones, boulders, etc. that you find on alpine routes. I also carry 6 or 7mil perlon for an ice cordelette, because, as lambone said, you can cut it up for v-threads if you forget extra material or need to bail. -josh

Not problem at all for the bag, Trav. I'd definitely been in the same situation before, so what goes around comes around, i figure. Glad to see you're home and awake again. I'm sure you had a great sleep after you got back!

When I did Lover's lane earlier this year me and my partner were speculating that it had been skiied before, based on some rumors we had *thought* we had heard. That certainly doesn't mean it has been though As Jens obviously proved, I'd definitely heard of the zipper being skied numerous times.

Anybody that can't see the joy of skiing in 2 or 3 feet of fresh snow that fell at a 1000 foot snow level (read: hero snow) seriously needs to get their head checked.

WEDNESDAY...BREEZY AND SNOW...HEAVY AT TIMES... SNOW ACCUMULATION 12 TO 18 INCHES. SNOW LEVEL LOWERING TO 1500 FEET. WEDNESDAY NIGHT...SNOW SHOWERS...HEAVY AT TIMES... ADDITIONAL SNOW ACCUMULATION UP TO 9 INCHES. SNOW LEVEL NEAR 1000 FEET. THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT...SNOW SHOWERS... MODERATE ADDITIONAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS. SNOW LEVEL 500 TO 1000 FEET. Looks like great skiing weather ...and shitty climbing weather

Hey Coley, awesome to meet you as well. It was a great day for a climb indeed. It was cool that everyone got along and we all stayed smart and safe. I do have to say, however, that you missed a highlight of the day when you guys cut across the ridge. The sunshine on the summit was the first time I felt warm (not just sweaty) all day long!

Drove by drury on the way home sunday. It is formed a good deal. Couldn't tell if it was touched down from our view driving by on US2, but it looked like enough was there that I would be tempted to do the approach should I have the time...

Yeah, and I'd also have a favorite new place to meet hike to and pick up the good stuff cheap.

very slick! but I expected "blue ice" to be more....blue

Cool TR. Sounds like you guys had fun. I'll be contacting GWB shortly to have our american ice patrolled by dudes with M-16s and air support.

I work out my legs with squats, deadlifts, leg extensions, etc. regularly, but I still find that the first actual run (as opposed to even a treadmill) after a while of not running always comes as a shock to me. It just seems that the constant pounding makes me sore no matter what if I am not used to it.

The right (looking uphill) side of the eldorado glacier is nearly crevasse free as it and is probably a good grade to skin up. I've dreamed about going up there in the winter, and that was my planned ascent path.

'cause the american car buying public, by and large, is stupid. Europeans get much cooler models as well. We lost a bunch of cool japanese sports cars in the early 90s as well, because all the american public wanted was bigger, slower and less efficient vehicles.

yeah, and if that happens, it will probably spoil my plans anyway and make that road the least of my concerns