RuMR

hey dickheads...let's get back to the topic on hand...getting a real chance to pop one of these ass clowns and the face and actually taking it...

no...i'm pear shaped...

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no ass clown, that is not what i meant...i'm sure the guy is devastating on trad...what i meant was the sick pitches on the nose are not really trad climbs in the normal sense...certainly not like the endless sick splitters on the salathe...the hard pitches on the nose are a. fixed mainly, and b. face climbing... take a look at any of the racks that these uberfolks are climbing with on the really hard pitches...

my guess is that the sick hard pitches are essentially fixed or *bolted* in the sense that he will be doing very little gear fiddling at all...

yeah, but its wide!!

where's the rumr appreciation thread? WTF!

kinda like colorado...

washington climbers need more bolted cracks, imo

time to start a WAR!!!

awesome Kevbone!!!

no no... read this: how much do they want?? They should be in jail...

i'd buy stock in that...

should be in jail!! Anyone catch 60 minutes last night??

Nice Eric... that's pretty sweet...not throwing gas on the fire, but bob's right...just a little sport climbing fits in with little time...it really is more efficient to getting some climbing specific fitness in...and if you can't handle bolts in real rock, come to the gym...i'd tie in with you...

she looks like she's trying to take a crap...or she's thinkin' real hard...

You can not see the hypocrisy here? The Valley of the Kings is itself a blight on the natural environment. Men raped the rock there carving stairs, hallways, and rooms in the earth. Then when the earth reclaimed this land, men came again to rape the rock again. And you are participating in this carnage. And you cry your crocodile tears about bolts? Apples and oranges, KK. Mountaineering, and its legitimate derivatives, are for the purpose of exploration and recreation. Don't know how long you've been at this, but the proud traditions of mountain climbing (up until about the mid 1980's) in this country continually evolved toward preserving the medium. That the Mountaineers include this ideal in their mission statement reflects the recognition that most who enjoy the outdoors (through hiking, scrambling and mountaineering) prefer to enjoy these pursuits without the constant reminder of human impact. That some impact is inevitable, and that greater impacts exist outside the areas we love to explore, does not negate our responsibility to respect and preserve these limited resources. Their mission statement notwithstanding, the Mountaineers promote and encourage sport climbing and its unaesthetic, cowardly impacts. That's pretty f-ing lame. you know, if you eliminated that one little comment, you might have a valid comment/argument... the funny thing is you might have a decent fist fight if you called some a coward to their face... last i heard, when you were confronted by a certain cc.com'er it was a fair bit of backpedaling...so, let's just leave those qualitative style comments out and discuss the more quantitative aspects... things like environmental impact, crowd increases, unsightly trash accumulation, removal of adventure and spice, et. cetera et. cetera, mmmmkay??

Hey...someone has to fill the void left by the absent conservatards...

i don't think he could, period... he said "Wrong, I said given the above rules, (unlimited rehearsal, etc.) 5.13 is within the ability of MOST WHO WOULD CARE TO DO SO, INCLUDING MYSELF, AND PROBABLY EVEN YOU AND YOUR FOUL MOUTH'

dog still claims he can climb 5.13 using shady sport tactics and i still say "BS"...

i think it'd be ok...plus, level of rain there is less than over here...

forged? Ha! those are hardly the originals! hahahaha

Is that some tough-guy "gangsta"-talk? I think you need to keep that $100 and invest in some education. Here, I'll get you started: [img:center]http://www.grabbertees.com/t-shirts/anger-management.png[/img] [img:left]http://www.confidentkids.com/images/angerposter.jpg[/img] [img:center]http://www.energypsy.eu/IMG/jpg/anger_mountain.jpg[/img] P.S. Do you have anything to contribute on the topic of climbing-gear theft? "gangsta" talk? WTF? Here, in plain english, is what i'm saying: You talk about how sport climbing tactics enable one to climb much harder. TRUE You then stated that 5.13 is quite doable by yourself. FALSE People called "BULLSHIT" (you need that term defined for you?) on you. Wager was offered up, which your candy ass said "No way, I'm above that". People laugh, and continue to laugh at you. Presently, you rely on the fact that people can't see you climb which instigates another offer of the bet.

but...BETTER LATE THAN NEVER!! where's that little pothead anyway??