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Bigbowsky all i gotta say is ...

That is true, but the bolts are camo'd and wouldn't be conspicuous at all... most likely, someone climbing on the route would appreciate the bolts... to me, its only when a big stink, ala dwayner, is raised that something like this even becomes an "issue"...

that guy may be invisible...unfortunately, he isn't silent...

This is "internet-speak" for "I ain't done shit anywheres, but there's no way you can prove different. I'm anonymous." IMO, the bolts should not have been put in. The tree was/is fine. and remind me, your opinion is worth what???

fuckin' lot of armchair qb's out there... Dane, good to see your healing up enough to talk shit... Props, jesse...

plus, you don't damage the tree itself...

bibwallben, curious to hear your thoughts on the size differential...

the repugnicans are fucking crusading kooks...i wish they'd just drink the koolade already...

That 0.0% of the population actually uses. sorry, but you forgot about Gary. not by choice, but nevertheless... I will vouch for the fact that Gary had a hot girlfriend a few months ago and she was not visibly pregnant. Back to Rumr's question; "When did you first have sex?" OK dork, when would you have had sex if any girl had let you within ten feet? Sex ed has to be more than a film strip in a gym class. The how's n why's have to be taught, re-taught, and postered where they are needed most. Jr high and Highschool. An condoms should be free and couseling for females who might use the pill, IUD's or other forms should be readily available. The alternatives are babies. very well said bug!!! :TUP: :TUP: :TUP: :TUP: :TUP: :TUP:

i think he's trying to throw the election...or he wants in Palin's pants...

Booze and drugs lower inhibitions. And don't sidestep the issue - kids drink, kids drive. We tell them not to, but they do it anyways. We need to teach them how to do it properly, don't you think? Teach the kids all about condoms, the pill, and a good number will ignore that advice right off the bat. No guy wants to wear a condom - lessens the "feel". And plenty of teenage boys will try to talk a girl into doing it w/o the condom. If the girl is not taught to be assertive in saying no - you know like if you taught abstinence properly, well she will not in this case either. Then of course there are the girls who get pregnant on purpose. You know, to "hook" the man they "love" and get him to marry them. Or so I've heard. You'll all deny it in your weak pontifications and right-wing bashing nonsense. And Dru - wherever you pull your 30% stat (out of your ass, I assume) - 20 years old is an adult. Break it down by say pre-16, and 16-17, and leave out the legal adults - 18 and over. quick question to yourself... when did you first get laid?

What are you saying? Condoms never tear! And the pill is 100% effective! Birth control never ever ever fails!! Birth control fails all the time (and it can happen whether you're 17 or 37), but that's not what I was talking about. Many of the posts have been blaming the pregnancy on abstinence only sex ed policy in Alaska assuming that's the reason for the pregnancy. For all we know, Bristol knew all about birth control in spite of the abstinence only teaching yet she still got pregnant because nothing works 100% of the time. logic and reason have no place here!! watch that first step off the soapbox, junior...

What are you saying? Condoms never tear! And the pill is 100% effective! Birth control never ever ever fails!! Birth control fails all the time (and it can happen whether you're 17 or 37), but that's not what I was talking about. Many of the posts have been blaming the pregnancy on abstinence only sex ed policy in Alaska assuming that's the reason for the pregnancy. For all we know, Bristol knew all about birth control in spite of the abstinence only teaching yet she still got pregnant because nothing works 100% of the time. i'd take a wager on that one... Gary's point is that its hypocritical either way... 1. either she used BC and it failed, but mom was against using BC in the first place 2. or mom was for BC and it failed anyway 3. or she didn't use BC and that abstinence didn't work All we do know is that Sarah Palin is on record as against teaching safe sex and family planning and her teenage daughter is now pregnant.

weak...very weak... many kids won't do drugs...its a rare kid that fantazises about booze and drugs but not sex... seems to me, when i was a wee little teen, it (sex) was always on my mind...come to think about it, its still there...and i rarely think about when i'm gonna go get pounded and fucked up...

You're absolutely right. We don't know the circumstances of the sex, nor what mom told daughter. However: - if mom taught abstinence, that's an ironic anecdote of the ineffectiveness of teaching abstinence - if mom taught safe sex, that's hypocritical for mom to teach one thing but pass laws to teach the other thing Above all though, I think peoples' anger with the whole thing is how the Repubs are embracing it, where were it some black/Latino/poor person, they'd be lambasting them for trying to get on the welfare rolls.

shhh porter...don't startle the little bible thumper...he might trip and fall off his soap box and hurt hisself!

if you are gonna "paraphrase" me, at least get it right... WHat i said was she couldn't figure out birth control and got into the situation of being pregnant in the first place...i said nothing about keeping the baby being a smart choice or not...

we had a most excellent weekend! and basically just climbed the classic crag lines. but yeah we prolly don't rate too good on the iq scael. then why were you bitchin' about HMW???? moron...

Stupid stuff Bristol Palin has done: 1) Gotten pregnant - Reason: sex is fun Stupid stuff Gary Yngve has done: 1) Bivied 30' off the ground due to stupidity 2) Got lost walking to Kurt's house - Reason: "the road makes a jog" 3) Very bad dresser 4) Whined all over CC about his Grad School advisor hey mark mcjizmonyourchin... gotta give the stupid award to bristol on this one... gary's a tool, but a 17 year old who can't figger out birthcontrol is a fuckin' moron (or maybe she hadn't heard of sex ed???)

OMFG...this THE post of this thread...

going to squish on a holiday is flat fuckin' stupid unless you go find less traveled routes and areas...

I said "preemptively"!!!!! now get out of the way...i have to seige Classic Crack...