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I dunno...i'm sitting here looking at J-dawg...he's fat, and his bmi says he's not...so maybe its busted the wrong way!!

ummm peter...WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER YER PM'S??????????????

uhh...not trying to start a war here, but wouldn't a couple of nice fat bolts be better than a pin, no pin, woah a new pin, dammit its gone, oh look a new pin, ad nauseum?? pretty soon theres gonna be a big fat HOLE there...

Looks like you guys all got bouted on the 5.7!!!

PUSH ME

hahahaha...i think my hand is in that slot! and yes...there's a small nut placement right after finishing the crux...

There's killer gear right at your ankle/foot for that section, then you are at the jug...don't need the pin...although it was nice...

actually they can be supported by experimentation on species like fruitflies that have short life cycles...

AHHH...life rears its ugly face ...i haven't actually touched real rock since early november...kids get sick, work sux, holidaze...oh, and don't get me started on this flippin weather crap!!! shoot wanna get out here for a spell...

FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK FUCK!

I thought that DFA married Erik and they moved to Utah, forsaking climbing to "shred da pow" or sumpin' stoopud like that!!!!

If you are using doubles cause of drag issues, your gear will force the issue...ie if your blue rope is running on the right and you had 3 pieces in a row on the right, then you will clip your blue three times in a row... Probably more of an issue on rock in places like the gunks where doubles are standard issue cuz of wandering routes and availability of gear... Big duh...just reread your original post where you said the route doesn't meander...i'd alternate clipping...

Yo greggie...didn't your mom tell you you'll shoot yer eye out???

hahahahaha...

okee dokee... Already talked to tim...sounds like he's goin... Its my b-day present...freaking 35!!! Good god where did the years go????????

actually i've been trying to figure out a way/time to get there in late feb/ early march...

I'm there!

Nope...i don't have the time/energy/initiative to do "cleanup" work and the way i see it, you can't please everyone all of the time... I agree w/ Tony...posting on the web about fixing something is not a good idea...just go do it, and be quiet about it...no need for a ruckus... A good case is the disappearing pin on iron horse, nobody made a stink and no war/fight was initiated...climb up there, its gone, deal w/ it and move on...there's good gear there anyway...on the flip side, the pin was nice to have in place...

I didn't read Tony's post as unnecessarily harsh...i think all he said is feel free to go fix something you don't agree w/...personally, i'm waaaay too lazy to do much of anything other than make a comment or too...

Kurt, the problem w/ this approach is varying levels of comfort while leading regardless of one's actual capabilities... I have several friends that can boulder in the v9 range but are very uncomfortable leading much harder than 10's and that's on sport routes... So how are you going to benchmark "comfort" for respective grades and leaders???

Scott...you rock!!!! Screw this winter crapola... I'm heading to smith this weekend...maybe...

Bob...you need to chill...not everyone has their life revolving around climbing...If 9+ is at your limit this discussion is as valid as whether scarface is 8b or 8b+... Climbing is such a great sport...no matter what your level or athleticism may be, you can find that route out there that is just hard enough to push you, but not shut you down...

Ok Dru...here's what appealed to me if you absolutely must know... The guy is 60 and is still pushing himself in the mountains and climbing...he's had 3 marriages and thinks he's finally found out what works and with whom...he lost a son to drugs and this has really put things in perspective to him...and that he really doesn't want to get killed climbing, but if that's where it happens he seems to be at peace w/ it... It struck a personal chord because my parents are in their mid 60's and i could easily see my dad having a lot of the same viewpoints as this guy does...like i said before, i've never met the guy, don't know him, but my interest was piqued enough to maybe want to meet him and have a conversation...