RuMR

with this logic, bolt everything in sight and at 2 foot intervals...

man, everytime i start thinking this site is a pile, something like this comes up!!

crack whore...so easy to pick up...

????

inifinte bliss!

ME?? no way...pass the twinkies...

can you spot me?? Please?

you are ghey... proceed on...

YOU'LL HAVE TO CUT YOUR FATTY HEAD OFF...IT'LL SKEW THE RESULTS...

i heard outerspace got uprated???

hmmm...do you know Mr Cramer? He's not like you are painting him... but whatever...

There's some prime middle-class male angst.

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bob's fat...he'll stretch his 60 into a 65 in short order...

:lmao: ahhh Tim...what's that saying about "sinners in hell want ice water?" Jens, hope things are going well...contact me about the turbokid project...PaulT is in town, between you, him and Ben, i wanna see this happen...

...maybe he ain't gettin' any bellevue barbie action!

tim's "evolving"...why just yesteryear, he was gonna chop a spanish bolted crack! hysterical that you are complaining about the rain to a bunch of PNW climber wanna-bes!

i'm just sick of snivelling, 19-year-old twats who think suburbia sucks because it doesn't appeal to their superficial, lame, narcissistic, single, partying lifestyle. KockAssSuckingDick...you are a tool...bellevue f-ing blows...it takes me goddamn an hour to drive 12 miles to work...

Hard to imagine from this interpretation that you read what I wrote at all. I was very explicit my comments and viewpoint have nothing whatsoever to do with anyone climbing at a particular level or that any one climbing at a particular level has carte blanche to do anything and everything. My point and belief is I feel no method, technique or means should escape unexamined from the bleeding edge where evolution is happening AND that it should be two seperate decisions whether a means is acceptable at the bleeding edge and also is viable to be propogated all the way down to every 5.6 in the land. That, as opposed to normal situation where the minute Frank Hardbody does it everybody with is doing it on every grade. In that scenario it is in no way a double standard - it's appropriate and measured means. Your approach is one where anything goes everywhere on everything the minute it is revealed - it's more communist than anything else with no merit test of any kind. That's exactly why we have circumstances which are the subject of this thread. Oh, and I bow down to no one - I just am not quick to judge at the bleeding edge nor do I leap to criticize difficult calls occuring at that edge simply because I wouldn't have made the same one. I give no one a pass regardless of who they are. i don't understand how you can say that party A establishing Line 1 is allowed to rap bolt, yet party B establishing Line 2 can not. it doesn't make any sense...bleeding edge... Caldwell just about onsight flashed ElCorazon the other day...falling once...this is my point...that particular free route was cutting edge when it was established, yet now at that "evolving" "bleeding" edge, someone almost onsights it ground up...

no...my point was hyperbolic...ie, if we take everyone's argument that we are trying to reduce impacts, then its probably best to just not go climbing...understand?? That's your justification for bolting cracks? where did i say bolt cracks???

:lmao: alex missed it on seneca too...

Tim...you are so pig-in-shit...seriously...you're livin' the life that i dream about...

this thread is ultrabrutal...

this is the exact reason why the anchor at jap was removed...

just out of curiosity, why do you care one way or the other?? as long as they don't change the location of your bolts? Rudy