RuMR

precisely, and they sometimes blow out...except when a bridge goes, the fatalities are higher...

Tom Everett of the Federal Highway Administration's National Bridge Inspection Program said the structurally deficient rating was a "programatic classification rather than an indication of safety." "It does not indicate a bridge is dangerous or that that bridge must be replaced," Okaaaaaayyyy... This bridge isn't unsafe, it's just 'structurally deficient'. Say that just before it collapses. my point is that there are many many bridges out there that carry that "rating". And the general public drives over them willy-nilly, then bitches about every damn tax that is earmarked for transportation to FIX them. Then, when they fall down, they point and say "why the hell wasn't this fixed"... BTW...if you feel this way, don't park under the viaduct, or drive on it, or be anywhere near it...mmmmkay?

Tom Everett of the Federal Highway Administration's National Bridge Inspection Program said the structurally deficient rating was a "programatic classification rather than an indication of safety." "It does not indicate a bridge is dangerous or that that bridge must be replaced,"

shitty detailing causes members to be prone to fatigue...notches, certain welding details, etc. are "start" points for cracks... bad steel can be sensitive to fatigue...its a combination of many things...none of which are apparent when the structure is "new"...all newer designs have fairly stringent charpy tests for members that are deemed "fracture critical"...and stress ranges are kept very low in fatigue-sensitve details.

how many times you gonna mention girth? or should i say, lack of girth? also, you stylin' the ghey cowboy vest for full effect?

Rudy - what's the engineering perspective? Was this your firm's? actually bob, the industry is taking this very seriously...there are few structural, very few, structural failures...but even a few are a few too many...it makes me sick to my stomach I'm completely speculating, but my money is on a fatigue issue...only way to explain forty years of service with a sudden catastrophic failure. and no, neither this office, nor any other of my firm's offices were involved with the original design or any subsequent retrofit efforts.

go ahead and try to get more money to fix them... or better yet, try tolling them to get them fixed... structurally deficient is an "interesting" term... The FHWA termed it as needing eventual replacement, yet somehow, i didn't see them helping to foot the bill

i'm still in the closet...if i come out, i'll be sure to give you a ring...

i tell ALL the girls that...

please don't rush back...take your time...lotsa it...

and more importantly, who cares?

just think, you've got another 15 lbs of fatty flab above your neck that you could chop quickly...

i detect a note of sarcasm, but if you are sincere :pfft:

metolius stuff is basically diesel work trucks...they don't break, are bomber when used properly and fit pretty damn well in a variety of places...sure, an alien will fit better in some flares/scars, etc. but all in all, i will carry metolius over everything else first in the small sizes... i have cams that i've wailed on with big falls and short hard falls that have been on my rack since the late 80's/early 90's (back when the cams were smooth faced) and all i've done is wash 'em once a decade and gotten new slings on them... they are BOMBER...

no dude...that's just wrong...sorry, i don't need to experience something necessarily to make a judgement call...PARTICULARLY if they've been bouldered or led before on available gear... Point is, its crap like this and exit38, newhalem, etc. that is causing such a negative reaction to sportclimbing... PS: Dwayner's still a dork though...

dwayner...i usually consider you a frickin' tool of the lowest order, but i gotta agree with you on this one...

pot kettle black

even the sporto's and free soloists?

nah...i'm only concerned with myself... say, was it good for you?

and climbed with tons o' chalk...

but they don't use chalk...go read the beacon thread

oh boy, here we go here we go

1st second or third period? I usually gassed in the third... wanna wrastle??

that's why i said "extrapolate"

shoot...i won't even need my...oh nevermind...