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Originally posted by Thinker: 
strandss weren't threaded thru the biner that the ATC was attached to, but thru a different biner on my harness.
WTF? Just through another on a belay loop or something? 
  
Haven't had the opportunity to mess up too much, but we did double-rope rappel off a pillar in the Melville Group, Selkirks.  Both ropes were damp, and we fed the rope directly through a webbing anchor.  Pulling the rope was impossible from the combination of rope stretch, webbing stretch, and dampness, and we had another rappel and unknown terrain to get out of a gulley.  We ended up rigging a 3:1 to pull the line, after several desperate attempts to get the thing down.  bring rap rings or junk biners for the long wet rappels I guess.