Crackbolter

Okay, sorry for not posting yesterday, the haul bag is sold. Everything else is still for sale. I live in Fremont if anyone would like to come by and see the trad gear. Think smallest of the small gear. I bought way too much of it and I never bring it with me anymore.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Why not explore thge mountain from the ground up instead of on rappel silly. Its not in the guidebook or anything Are you blind? No, I will not be doing any explorations of the Garfield Choss Buttress anytime soon. This is more your style Mr. Hardman who can't get a hardon from climbing anymore. You do this climb, you will have a nice high for weeks after. Be sure to take your drill, the cracks will need bolting. It could go free though.

I am not ready to attempt Garfield. That mountain is a major undertaking!!! Just getting to the summit was bad enough. Rapping from the top to explore the butress would probably result in rockfall and I would end up dying. I don't want that. I will leave that one for a real hard man. Any takers? I dare you to just climb the fu**ing mountain let alon put a new route on it.

As I was riding down the North Fork last week, I realized that ther was a sudden urge to explore the North Facing rock on Mount Si. i know that there is plenty of rock climbing to be had but I also know that the rock is a far cry from granite. Is this the kind of place that my crack bolting skills come into play? Does any of the professional route makers know of any potential for this un or semi explored wall of choss? Is this hush hush even though you can see it clearly from the road?

I need $$$$!!!! For Sale: Fish Haul Bag hardly used, $40. Salomon 1080 ski with brand new 160 Rossi Bindings, $150 Katadin Combi Purifier hardly used $50 Marmot Alpinist 2 layer Goretex Shell XL used for 1 season and freshly Nickwaxed. $75 This offer Expires June 27th and I will repost July 15th when I get back. I also have a bunch of trad gear that I never use that is for sale but mostly passive pro from RP #0 to 1" stoppers. Good for aid gear. Probably 20 or 30 nuts and will sell for $70. E-mail me for the complete list. Just give me a P.M. and I will give you any additional information. I can ship if necessary but Postage Is Not Part Of The Price. [ 11-26-2002, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: Crackbolter ]

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Dru, I am the Gaper. I am the one who tried to give insight who really doesn't want any. It seem that you really don't want advice as much as you would rather rag on other peoples's answers. Your talk of no more unclimbed peaks is the biggest bullshit ever. If you are not willing to bend over and take it in the ass like my little prison bitch I'll have to track you down and ...... well, you know. You have just boared me.

I know nothing bout Dru or his climbing. I do know that he seems to be bored with climbing and is looking toward the community for his answers. I gave my answer and now I am waiting to see his name in the books. If he chooses to find the true challenge of climbing, he needs to be a pioneer. Otherwise, he will stagnate and fade away. Climbing is a natural progression.

I don't understand what you are trying to convey. I don't think you are listening, go to the unclimbed areas which are still waiting for climbers to climb and fucking climb them. That is where you accomplishment will show it's true colors. I ain't talking about a fuckin power drill at a fucking crag!

Dru, I invite you to break free from the traditionalism that your climbing career has followed. You seem like you like it a whole bunch but like many, you are tied down to a normal life in the city and your escape is when you don't have to work. This is the solution: Give your guidebooks away and start climbing the unknown. If you have enough experience which it sounds like you do, find a partner who is just as capable and head out into the areas where there is no guidebook and start climbing the way climbing should be viewed as. You know where there is good unclimbed rock and you know how to climb stuff with a goal to top out. Some climbs of course will have a small amount of aid or will need aiding the first time around and if you choose to free it later on then you will have the particular route beckoning you to free it some other time. How many people do you know who has broken free from the typical climber's profile and just decided to actually start climbing stuff that was undiscovered? If you are being truthful about how you feel, we would agree that not many people go there. We like the sense of security and the ability to know where we are going. Dru, I invite you into the unknown which will change the way you view climbing for the rest of your career. It only takes a light hammer and a few pitons and a 1/4" hand drill and a few bolts. Need a partner? Lets go climbing and if I am not good enough for you then I know people who are definately better than me who ARE capable.

"The Wedge" is 3rd beach near Neah Bay. Careful of the rock wall and be ready to be catapulted when you hit the wave convergance. Nice thin wall though. I would love to be inside the rip curl holding my position and jet out of the tunnel right as it closes in on me.

You guys need to decide for yourselves how selfish you really want to be. There is nothing wrong with being selfish. We exisit to gratify ourselves in every way. Thing of Americans as being the gluttonous (SP?) people of the world. We consume more resources than any other country in the world. We pollute more than any other country in the world. This probably means that we are mostly thinking of ourself. We are destroying the world as we do so but no one seems to be trying to stop it. This is why I do all of these great outdoor sports. It is too easy to just live a normal life and it seems like climbing, skiing, fishing and music is what challenges me the most. I can also take it to a level that few people are capable of bringing it to. I am not an elitist, just passionate.

T.G., You have my deep support. This is a time when our beloved climbing community should unite and help support your decision and your own efforts. It takes a remarkable person to exist in a world where his life is spared for a loved one that is lost. What you have experienced, hopefully I will never have to experience and hopefully no one else will ever have to experience. I can not say that it wont happen though. We do not choose, it chooses us. I will toast to your daughter tonight and play "Shady Grove" in her memory.God bless you my man.

Okay-Ive been humbled..Calling a guy a woman is fine but calling a girl a guy for some reason seems like a much bigger insult. Sorry, Ill shut up now.

S.K., You ain't nice. I agree with more beer less gear but I don't agree with a little man spouting big words. This site was not intended for your ego and harshness. That is all I have to say.

Umm....When I was climbing G.N.S. at Index one time, there was a guy climbing the top-out pitch on Narrow Arrow and had a necklace on. He decided since his head was the perfect size...Well, needless to say, look for the stains next time you are on the offwidth part.

quote: Originally posted by richard noggin: Damn dude 6 of those are me! You talkin to me! I said you talkin to me!! Me and you battle cage mofo I'll whip the spraymaster kung Fu...ie on your sorry ass!! Just kiddin I don't think that list was neer long enough and we all know you are the Mega fly of all gapers. Mega Fly...huge fly that eats shit and bugs people. Yeah, Im talkin to you! You wanta maka somethin of it? (As my fists close tightly and repeatedly pound on my inflated chest) You are damn right I'm the mega fly! I can't even get a picture on this post! So while you gapers go and act like climbers this weekend, I will be redpointing the Sasquatch Stage trying to get closer to String Cheese Incodent! My eyes will be bloodshot and my climbing hands will be sore from the parking lot jammin that I will be playing! FUall!

Your c.c. login name is: Trillium, iain,glen ,Crackhead ,Stefan ,Son of Caveman ,Dru ,Alex ,mikeadam ,Cpt.Caveman ,Gaper_#2 ,mvs ,b-rock ,gapertimmy ,ruddersbox ,Alex , jon, erik ,sk ,Bronco, tomtom ,Attitude ,richard noggin ,Figger Eight ,Billy ,tasmith513 ,Charlie, chucK, Lambone ,Szyjakowski,UncleTricky , joekania ,CAMAZONIA ,trask ,slothrop, crackbolter or if you post on more than one climber's message board.

Do you guys really think Mark cares of what people think of him? If you don't personally know him then you are speculating on his personality and behavior...Typical. As far a Lynn, just look for her in Fremont and Ballard. I've run into her at various local pitstops. She is such a talker...I thought I was bad!

I was climbing Snake Dike and we forgot a headlamp and ended coming down about 20 minutes after it was completely dark. We missed the bridge and just decided to make a fire and wait it out until the next morning. When we walked out we noticed YO.S.A.R. was everywhere. We also notices yellow tape wrapped around the area. Come to find out, Glacier Point had a rockfall that was fatal. It destroyed a bunch of tents and caused some pretty bad ruckus. We didn't even hear it. Talk about EPIC! The next day we just decided to be dayhikers and catch up on sleep. After that it was gripped climbing on D.N.B. which every pitch felt like 5.10+. I guess I was a little rattled from the day before but made it without any falls. By the way guys, good luck getting a camping spot. What a crowder mess! I would much rather park and head straight for the wall and bivy away from the valley. I just hate the CHAOS.

You guys have a consensus, you are all better climbers than everyone else. You need not to worry because no many people can even hike that far to go rock climbing. Just keep arguing while I keep finding more routes to dust off and ascend. Take the Pearly and the SCW and Midnight and Castle and Givlers and JY and Trundle and let them be stomped and trundled. Put fourth the effort to maintain the trails and replace the rusted buttonheads. Wear a helmut and educate them. Let people hike in and clip and plug gear as they please. You guys need to just keep hiking a little further out and maybe bivy and you won't even see gapers. All you will see is the potential for more routes and eventually, those will be sent and our lovely message board will be chatting about them in due time. Nothing is going to stop the progress. Especially if REI and The North Face keeps giving money to the Access Fund and the Access Fund keeps giving access. REI gets more sales because people get more access. Who wins? The industry, one dollar...one vote. One person one vote. Rather than whining about each other, start planning to change the DNR, FS and National Park bylaws to help protect the woods. ...And quit being so damn selfish!

quote: Originally posted by pope: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: So here is a question Mr. "bolts are bad for the environment," What kinda trail is this your talkin about? Is it established? Switchbacks? Or is it just another climber's scar leading from point A to point B in the shortest time possible? Just curious, thanks in advance for the clarification. Firstly, thanks but no thanks for attibuting that quote to me. What I said is, bolts are ugly and alien to the mountain environment, and while their use is acceptable under special circumstances, the proliferation of bolts in the last two decades is evidence that climbing, as defined by modern practices, is just another pussy sport. Sorry, Allison. About the trail: yes it's fast, and it follows a game migration route which, if you didn't know, seems to stay on the contour, and so erosion is minimal. I would say the old climbers root crawl, from where it leaves Snow Creek trail, is about as rutted out as I've seen in the Cascades. Who the hell is this guy? What the fuck is he talking about? Bolts are alien to the mountain environment? Allison is a pussy? Did anyone tell this guy that it probably took at least one ton of dynamite to blow up the canyon so that the icycle road could be built? How about the dams on the Wenatchee? Who gives a shit about a couple of hundred holes in the rock WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO WHAT INDUSTRIALISM HAS DONE TO THIS PLANET! Get Real.

I can't believe you guys want to be like anyone! Don't you think that what you have accomplished is worthy? If not then get your shit in gear and go climb something hard. After all, our generation has the ability to take what was learned by every generation before us and bring climbing to the next level. All you gotta do is on-sight free solo the North Norweigan Buttress of Mount Index! Then you will be a hero! Okay, so maybe that is a bit too tough, maybe just find new lines in the Enchantment Plateau. Paul Boving dodn't climb all the hard ones

Royal Robbins acted too Royal for my blood. I would like to be me inspired by individuals of the last generation. I liked Peter Croft, Greg Child, Gordy-Dave-Viktor-Jim Clan, Beckey, Kit Lewis, Jim Nelson, the guy who wears a Santa outfit at Steven's during Christmas(I forget his name). I just like the Cascade Duffs. My great Uncle was supposedly Charles Hessey, I don't know what that means but it sure sounds fun. I'd like to be able to drop my knee like the old timer, leather boot wearing folks.

This is from : http://www.climbingwashington.com/routeinfo/ By Jeff Smoot "Viktor Kramar and Dave Bale have developed a new crag in the Icicle Creek Canyon. Dubbed "Pearly Gates," this crag features mostly crack routes in the 5.6-5.11+ range, many around 5.9, with good anchors. At Viktor's invitation, several other climbers have visited, cleaning up the crag and adding additional routes. The rock is white granite reminiscent of Donner Summit, said to be some of the best rock in the Icicle. To get there, hike up Snow Creek Trail to the first switchback, where a faint climbers' trail leads across the creek and follows cairns up the hill to the crag; about 30 minutes to approach. For information about particular routes, click here." (08/08/01) Plenty of info to associate yourself with the area.