Crackbolter

Slapspace, Resist Temptation! Your voice echos throught the halls when you speak. Remember the ways of the peaceful warrior.

I have no idea who Peter is but I do want to thank him for moderating many of the topics that have come accross this website. I can relate to him way more than any of the other posters. What went down yesterday was bad. When I joined this website, I was dogged as well. My name was posted and private messages were sprayed all over the site. It caused BIG controversy. I wonder why the moderaters are allowing everyone to post under an anonymous character since it causes so much greif. This is really the only message board community that allows such behavior. I will admit to causing a bunch of controvery myself. In retrospect, many people find it humerous and many people take it personally. I apologize to everyone. This IS a COMMUNITY. This IS a tight nit group. This IS my family. My advise to everyone: Quit being someone you are not. This is also self advise. I suggest that the moderaters change the way this site is viewed by the climbers that we all so much admire and aspire to become. I will only continue to lurk. From now on, only the facts.. our opinion holds no value or ground by people who post so what is the point? I think our community is based mostly by people who lurk. Those who know nothing, speak as they know. Those who know, say nothing. Sincerely, Tony Bentley Feathered Friends Customer Service Manager 206-292-6292

I think Mitch has offended just about every climber that I admire. The cheese stands alone on this one. I always thought that there was a sense of comrodery with all of the crag caretakers. Mitch, are you out to change this philosophy?

quote: Originally posted by Retrosaurus: quote:Originally posted by Peter Puget: ...just how tall are you guys? My pop sensibility says smaller than average. So come on fess up how tall are you? If I had met you I wouldn't be asking. Average US male 5' 10" I bet your shorter! Well, Kerns, I am 5'10". Did someone let the cat out of the bag?

Those who know me, know how I feel. Everyone lese should just enjoy the humor.

PP, I think maybe the bolt on the top of the Rogers Corner slab needs replacing but it isn't necessary since everyone skips it. This is the only crag that I think even has rusty spinners so close to the road. As crusty as Leavenworth is, it seems to be okay. Vantage could use more bolts. Or replace Winter Walk bolts. Peshastin could use some chopping, so no one climbs there again. Not that I am proposing that someone should actually go out there with a crowbar. If you have a crowbar and a drill you are probably a selfish, power hungry, Generation X'er who just wants to grid bolt everything into oblivion and probably just wants to to place bolts next to natural gear placements so you don't have to lug your heavy rack everywhere.

Let me get a list of my own memory and I wil ask a few other people and I will get back to you tomorrow. I promise.

Captain Caveman, Do you remember the grey TCU that you lost??? Well, I would have said something if you hadn't cheated on that one climb by stacking rocks at the base. AID CLIMBING CHEATER!!! No I don't have your cam but I know who does, you will never see it again. Sorry, thats booty.

Captain Caveman, Do you remember the grey TCU that you lost??? Well, I would have said something if you hadn't cheated on that one climb by stacking rocks at the base. AID CLIMBING CHEATER!!! No I don't have your cam but I know who does, you will never see it again. Sorry, thats booty.

quote: Originally posted by Bug: I got a crowbar for father's day. I'm going to Leavenworth this weekend. Anyone have a hit list? Plenty of rap anchors that need replacing. Ask Dru if he will go out and use his new-used drill to help out.

Good morning! Nice to see a new ethics thread that reviews the importance of weither our bolters are doing a good job. I am sorry I was skiing Helens on Friday rather than being on this website debating. Ready for my opinion? Go Fishing, and use dry flies only.

BORED women.

Wow! I love the name SEXUAL! To involve chocolate is even sexier. You speak sex! Are you a pronstar? If so, how much do you charge to do a movie? I mean, by the hour? Would you be willing to do one on a portaledge on El Cap? I would call it "Sexual Chocolate & White Litening" Just kidding. i just think the name is cool. Can I have a date? Can my friends come?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Why not explore thge mountain from the ground up instead of on rappel silly. Its not in the guidebook or anything Are you blind? No, I will not be doing any explorations of the Garfield Choss Buttress anytime soon. This is more your style Mr. Hardman who can't get a hardon from climbing anymore. You do this climb, you will have a nice high for weeks after. Be sure to take your drill, the cracks will need bolting. It could go free though.

I am not ready to attempt Garfield. That mountain is a major undertaking!!! Just getting to the summit was bad enough. Rapping from the top to explore the butress would probably result in rockfall and I would end up dying. I don't want that. I will leave that one for a real hard man. Any takers? I dare you to just climb the fu**ing mountain let alon put a new route on it.

As I was riding down the North Fork last week, I realized that ther was a sudden urge to explore the North Facing rock on Mount Si. i know that there is plenty of rock climbing to be had but I also know that the rock is a far cry from granite. Is this the kind of place that my crack bolting skills come into play? Does any of the professional route makers know of any potential for this un or semi explored wall of choss? Is this hush hush even though you can see it clearly from the road?

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Dru, I am the Gaper. I am the one who tried to give insight who really doesn't want any. It seem that you really don't want advice as much as you would rather rag on other peoples's answers. Your talk of no more unclimbed peaks is the biggest bullshit ever. If you are not willing to bend over and take it in the ass like my little prison bitch I'll have to track you down and ...... well, you know. You have just boared me.

I know nothing bout Dru or his climbing. I do know that he seems to be bored with climbing and is looking toward the community for his answers. I gave my answer and now I am waiting to see his name in the books. If he chooses to find the true challenge of climbing, he needs to be a pioneer. Otherwise, he will stagnate and fade away. Climbing is a natural progression.

I don't understand what you are trying to convey. I don't think you are listening, go to the unclimbed areas which are still waiting for climbers to climb and fucking climb them. That is where you accomplishment will show it's true colors. I ain't talking about a fuckin power drill at a fucking crag!

Dru, I invite you to break free from the traditionalism that your climbing career has followed. You seem like you like it a whole bunch but like many, you are tied down to a normal life in the city and your escape is when you don't have to work. This is the solution: Give your guidebooks away and start climbing the unknown. If you have enough experience which it sounds like you do, find a partner who is just as capable and head out into the areas where there is no guidebook and start climbing the way climbing should be viewed as. You know where there is good unclimbed rock and you know how to climb stuff with a goal to top out. Some climbs of course will have a small amount of aid or will need aiding the first time around and if you choose to free it later on then you will have the particular route beckoning you to free it some other time. How many people do you know who has broken free from the typical climber's profile and just decided to actually start climbing stuff that was undiscovered? If you are being truthful about how you feel, we would agree that not many people go there. We like the sense of security and the ability to know where we are going. Dru, I invite you into the unknown which will change the way you view climbing for the rest of your career. It only takes a light hammer and a few pitons and a 1/4" hand drill and a few bolts. Need a partner? Lets go climbing and if I am not good enough for you then I know people who are definately better than me who ARE capable.

"The Wedge" is 3rd beach near Neah Bay. Careful of the rock wall and be ready to be catapulted when you hit the wave convergance. Nice thin wall though. I would love to be inside the rip curl holding my position and jet out of the tunnel right as it closes in on me.

You guys need to decide for yourselves how selfish you really want to be. There is nothing wrong with being selfish. We exisit to gratify ourselves in every way. Thing of Americans as being the gluttonous (SP?) people of the world. We consume more resources than any other country in the world. We pollute more than any other country in the world. This probably means that we are mostly thinking of ourself. We are destroying the world as we do so but no one seems to be trying to stop it. This is why I do all of these great outdoor sports. It is too easy to just live a normal life and it seems like climbing, skiing, fishing and music is what challenges me the most. I can also take it to a level that few people are capable of bringing it to. I am not an elitist, just passionate.

T.G., You have my deep support. This is a time when our beloved climbing community should unite and help support your decision and your own efforts. It takes a remarkable person to exist in a world where his life is spared for a loved one that is lost. What you have experienced, hopefully I will never have to experience and hopefully no one else will ever have to experience. I can not say that it wont happen though. We do not choose, it chooses us. I will toast to your daughter tonight and play "Shady Grove" in her memory.God bless you my man.