Off_White

Well, don't take this personally TekEss, but you came here because you've been sold a bill of goods by the media who's flogging a soap opera for the sake of making the kind of money you seem to think the owners of this site should be bellying up to the trough to get their share of. Don't get me wrong, it's a very sad thing that has happened, and strikes a chord with the members of this site because it's the sort of thing that could happen to anyone here. The three climbers sound like good folks, and were certainly very special to their friends and family, but the tragedy of untimely death is repeated a thousand times a minute across the globe. I've had six friends die in the mountains, and odds are you've never heard of any of them. There's nothing especially noble about climbing, and as you've noted, about climbers in general either. This site is a place for climbers in the Northwest to talk amongst themselves, about ideas, adventures, plans, and all kinds of stuff. Many have the same kind of black humor you'll find among firemen, ambulance drivers, and ER docs. We also shoot the shit, argue amongst ourselves, insult each other, and have bitter battles over things that are essentially trivial in the greater scheme of things. We're not about explaining what we do to the world at large, and it's merely happenstance that we've been one of several ground zeros for the kind of frenzy a good disaster with a human element excites in a public that chooses to live vicariously. For the record, I'm not an administrator or owner of this site, I'm a poster who was asked to become a volunteer moderator. More specifically, I'm a Spray Moderator, which means I have a thick skin, a wicked sense of humor, an inclination towards irreverence, and am an advocate for intellectual freedom and free expression. This site may very well not suit you. It's certainly not for everyone. You might want to check out rockclimbing.com, summitpost.com, or nwhikers.net, all sites that cater to different aspects of climbing.

Why are you mooning me like some pesky goat in heat? Never mind, I don't care, I'm gonna fuck you anyway.

Please, it tickles when you blow smoke there. In this case, I'm only a Spray Mod. A tired and crabby spray mod.

Please, can I make it clear for you all? None of you bitches have done fuck all for this site. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

No offense intended all, but this is a bare bones information only thread, so I've deleted comments, compliments and well wishes. Feel free to comment in another thread elsewhere on this board, or send your appreciation or condolences via Personal Message to the individuals involved. We're winding down coverage and focus on what is now officially a lower intensity body recovery operation. thanks Off White - Cascadeclimbers Moderator

This is not news. It's time to stop. Move along please, refer to the post at the end of the second mt hood thread if you have any questions or need some guidance as to what's appropriate with regards to posting on this bulletin board at this time.

well, that'd be a bit racy if you said you'd "known" him then, eh what? Nudge nudge wink wink, say no more! say no more!

Maybe that's "over a million pwned" over the gates to Spray...

Hey there escondido - I don't know about the sentence, but it seems he's out now, which means there was some serious screw up in the prosecution if you get out in a year and half after being busted with 300 some odd pounds of cocaine. His posts here about basejumping were great and well written, but the revelations of bestiality courtesy of casual Google research were just a wee bit much even for the hardened denizens of this cyberburg. Oh, and I don't mean to suggest that d-dog is anywhere near a most annoying poster, this is just an aside to the equestrian board business that came up. PS: don't take the insults personally, they're certainly not meant that way. This is liberty hall, you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard.

Batteries would be long dead, but it make for some sweet booty for resale on ebay.

Careful, you'll dislocate your shoulder doing that.

Great idea, here's that link again: http://www.pmru.org/

Speculation by the ill informed = moving your lips/fingers for your own entertainment = spray. As was pointed out, it's pisses a lot of people off, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to get people to be polite or monitoring posts. It's not useful to the search effort, it's not helpful to friends and family, it's just a bunch of blather. Blather is just fine, we all do it, but it belongs here.

Portland Mountain Rescue website is here and offers daily updates.

I find people who post the same thing three times pretty annoying. Hey equestrian board person, did you have D-dog aka Doug Spinks post on your board? We may have something in common. S

Johnny, if this tickled you, you should really go read this brilliant Spray thread.

This thread is now closed, there's nothing more to say that hasn't been said repeatedly. For SAR information go here to read. To express your condolences to the victim's families, particularly those with a religious bent, go here. If you want to learn more about climbing in general, please go start or join an ongoing thread in the Newbies forum on this board. If you want to argue, complain, debate religion, speculate about things you don't understand, or carry on incessantly either go to the Spray forum on this board or just go away. Thanks for your cooperation.

This thread is only for updates from people involved in the current search on Mt. Hood to provide information updates as they become available. No questions, speculations, or discussion please. Note: we're working on getting a synopsis and starting point drafted and posted here, thanks for your patience.

I will pray for you, and I certainly hope your families don't read this forum.

Well, I certainly hope you're not so selfish that you'd go up there without a PLB! Praise Jesus, think of the children!

Oh, are you the little fucker who's been making the inside of my car smell like mouse pee? I'd swear there's one nesting in the heating system.

So, in all seriousness: Under normal conditions I like to drop a note to someone when I delete or move their stuff. Of late it's been so off the hook here that any number of mods drop in and do a little random enforcement of the "spray belongs in Spray" doctrine when they've got a moment, and almost nothing gets the kid glove treatment or being spawned off into a Spray topic. Hell, I'm probably doing 10% of it, and I can't even follow what's happening.

Uhh, you do know that was joke, eh Mouse?

An avy beacon is only used as a locator for when you're buried in an avalanche. You will need people with you who also have beacons, and they will need shovels and probe poles to find you and dig you out ASAP. This is not a "lost in the wilderness" sort of locator. A PLB is like calling "Help me Mr. Wizard, I don't wanna be in the wilderness anymore." It doesn't communicate any information other than where you are and that you want a rescue. Neither is a substitute for judgment and experience. Perhaps your family might do better to fund some sort of specific training and education for some aspect of your adventures that might merit it?

Looks like he had a piece just below him but it popped without a pause. He actually refers to his "two bits of gear decided to fall out" which furthers the sport climbing background possibility, not to mention using that horizontal crack as a face hold rather than the bomber wrist lock it would seem to offer. The guy bounces right back though, I shudder to think how I'd feel after hitting the deck like that, bad landing and all.