Greg_W

Maybe you should read some history. Read why the Founding Fathers put so much importance on the Second Amendment. It's not about guns, it's about individual freedom and liberty...much like the freedom of speech, or freedom of assembly, or the freedom from illegal search and seizure. They are all connected Erik.

Shut up, toddler, or you'll go through the rest of you life with a permanent limp.

"you gun owners"? Last I heard, you were a gun owner too, Erik. If you do truly care so little about freedom, don't bitch when it's gone. Seriously. You bitch about your "lack of freedom" to travel in NF land and the "Tool" and all that. Where is the difference?

Good logic, Erik. We need some guy to make a movie filled with errors and outright lies and that's A GOOD THING? You're smoking too much pot. Better a movie than an entire administration. Feel free to pick your administration of choice on that one. Do you honestly think they are all lily white?

Don't bother, I'm already the bad son.

You might be on the right track, but you're totally missing what these parties want. Both parties want power. At the heart, one party believes that PEOPLE are the answer, and the other believes that GOVERNMENT is the answer. Now, bear in mind that I said "at the heart"; it doesn't always end up that clear cut. Don't be fooled, the Democrats aren't so responsible as to want to "...pay for it as we go along by not cutting taxes." They want more money for more programs; also, more money means more BORROWING POWER. Why do you think they won't let us control our Social Security dollars? They use that money as collateral to borrow other money; if we controlled it in private investment vehicles, they couldn't do that. It's all a shell game...on both sides. Cutting useless waste and bad programs is the only way.

Good logic, Erik. We need some guy to make a movie filled with errors and outright lies and that's A GOOD THING? You're smoking too much pot.

Now that's something you and I both support! That's the way it was meant to be. Early congressmen had fields and flocks to tend to, they couldn't spend all their time squabbling over this shit...then Ted Kennedy was born...oh, the horror.

Hey, man, I never said I was the posterchild of support for the current administration OR political party. I'm just commenting on Dean because that was the original topic. Don't corner me into defending Bush's decisions. At the heart of it, neither party will be for smaller government as long as they are allowed to get re-elected for an unlimited number of terms (in Congress). Those in power will always seek greater powers. Seek term limits for your Senators and Representatives.

Yeah, we should let the government handle everything, then there will be nothing to fear. With all the guns gone, noone will hurt anyone and we'll all live in brotherly harmony. Instead of "fear", how about refusal to be a victim? Moore is so blatantly anti-American and anti-freedom, it's disgusting. Several websites that give him broad-based support are operated by outspoken socialist and communist groups. That tells you what his perfect view of America is.

No shit. Or a miscommunication, which might have been better. You're not helping youngster, so shut the fuck up. NO! Fine, I'm calling your Mom and she'll send you to your room.

Don't qualify my correctness, ehmmic, that IS what they set up. You were almost there, until you tripped over that Democrat red herring of "ignoring the popular vote" thing. Shall I explain the "semantics" of that to you now?

By instilling fear of potential travesties, both liberals and conservatives get their party faithful to rally behind their anti-freedom, big-government, power-mongering legislation.

No shit. Or a miscommunication, which might have been better. You're not helping youngster, so shut the fuck up.

Not Sure I understand what you're referencing. His views sound pretty reasonable to me. Uh, two things disturb me about the speech he gave: One, he says "deplete our national treasury by giving tax cuts". National Treasury? What the fuck, last I knew it was MY hard earned money not the governments. He has a big-government mentality that it is the government's money first. Second, he doesn't know what kind of government was set up by the Founding Fathers when he says "our democracy". This country was founded as a democratic republic - very different.

Yeah, and that ain't using their hands, either.

It's sunny, why raise your blood pressure? Most problems, I find, are due to a misunderstanding. Let's all relax and take a step back. Okay, deep breath, everyone. Feel the breath filling your lungs, expanding your torso. Feel the blood travel from your heart, out to the tips of your fingers, to the ends of your toes. Close your eyes and listen to the breeze outside. Remember what granite feels like, what chalk feels like between your fingertips. Okay, exhale slowly, completely. Feel all your muscles relax. Let your cares drip off your fingertips and shake your worries away. Now, have a great motherfucking day.

Dude, you obviously don't know Erik that well. "Deep thinker" and the amount of green he imbibes do more than cancel each other out. I figure his girl found a guy that actually is going somewhere with his life and he's feeling inadequate. How are the Krispy Kreme's Baby Orca?

I think you suck, you pudgy little internet cop wannabe.

That's not a bad deal, really. Although, with your membership with Trask Entertainment Enterprises, you can get much bettter rates. I'll send you a membership packet.

Jesse Jackson's kind of an off-white color. Is that closer?

Makes me wonder, if that person committed suicide, would it be considered a "hate crime"?

Bwahahahaha!!! I hate Mountaineers more...

Mattp - No, I don't camp in regular campgrounds very often. I have this friend who likes to make his own with a weedeater and pruning equipment. I was honestly asking the question; I don't know. THanks for the info, though.

Erik: I was not aware that USFS campgrounds had been privatized. My understanding is that those campground hosts are hired by the Forest Service. Do you have information to the contrary? Greg_W