Greg_W

Me, too, AlpineK. I knew we could find a common ground somewhere.

Okay, just making sure this wasn't going to turn into one of those "Jews run the world and must be overthrown" threads.

Sounds like AlpineK is harboring some latent anti-Semitism. Why so bitter, K?

Muffy you wanker! (sprayer) Some of the stuff you say, I just cannot believe. "Gee life isn't fair so just get over it ok and let (someone) make all the rules and be empiric and peremptory about it cuz that's just the way life is." Is this the drivel you teach your kids? Teach your kids that we CAN make a difference, you indifferent (muffy). I'd love to see the world (hate to see) if everyone had your attitude: "Gee,slavery's not THAT bad. You get used to it, and you usually get fed." "Hey, I don't want to vote anyway. My place is in the kitchen (Really? Yours too, Muffy?)." "Hey, WWI was kinda bad, WWII too, but trying to work together through an international coalition for future WW prevention seems like a BAD IDEA to me." "I don't CARE if you're not guilty. You STILL get the death penalty. Life Isn't Fair. What kind of an upstart are you, anyways? " "Ahh gee mom (muffy), how come the bully always gets his way on the playground? I thought might wasn't supposed to make right?" "Shut up kid. I'm just a hypocritical hippy who once was kinda dippy. Now I'm sane, just playing the Republican's game." Sadness takes the form of water, nourishes new growth. What pain for new green. I cannot let go. Must let go. Must let go. Thanks, Sexual Chocolate, for reminding me why I think your a fucking idiot.

I'll bet that's the last time he does that!

Perhaps you are correct and gas should be more expensive than it is? If the price of gas factored in all of the hell that we must go through to get it, as well as environmental damages involved, it would be significantly more expensive! What monetary price should we put on war, the loss of human life, oil spills, etc...

Erik, he's right in implying that he need not shift his focus based on public opinion of the moment or poll results; that would be foolish. He's already been elected into office (let's not resurrect that tired debate), now it is his job to put his plan into action. You're smarter than this Erik. Greg W

I was using the Ten Commandments in light of minx's example. My personal moral beliefs or belief system is irrelevant in this discussion.

Girl, hell. Looks like all woman from where I'm sitting! Yowza!!!

Actually, he's LEARNING to count. So he needs the practice.

Interesting, how would that work? Obviously, DFA and his ilk would have some sort of V.I. Lenin flag. Trask, mikeadam, Capt. Caveman, Fairweather, myself, sisu, glacierdog, and a few others would have a "Don't Tread on Me" flag. What others would we see?

The guy is smarter than he looks. Every time I try to get out they suck me back in.

Life imitates art. I lived that one.

My bad Erik; I was looking at it from an angle and 40' away. My apologies.

People can't handle having their opinions picked apart by logic and facts, I guess. Keep being you, there, buddy.

It IS a violation of the doctor's rights. Many things are done in the name of religion that, upon reflection, have no tie to said religion's tenets. Examples include the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. In this example, one would recall the Seventh Commandment which state "Thou shalt not murder." There are caveats to this which Dwayner is probably better equipped to comment on, such as war, self-defense, etc.

That webbing looked pretty ratty when I was there on Wednesday. Plus, I think it's tied in an American Death Triangle.

Erik - If you've been reading up on it, then you know more than I; I am sure. However, I do know that Israel exports a good amount of electronic components to the U.S. That is my only defense. I truly believe that we still do what we do for Israel out of GUILT, and a HUGE pro-Israel lobby in Congress. They are on the dole, big time, but I don't really know what the trade deficit is; maybe no one does. I would be in favor of pulling out completely and seeing what happens, PROVIDED we have the means to procure the imports we will lose due to the regional war that would be inevitable. Democracy and a "Free State", as you call it, are NOT Christian ideas. The ideas of self-government, liberty, and self-determination rise from the Natural Law school of thought. As individuals, we are instilled with, or born with, certain rights that no other man has a 'right' to take away. These rights may be a product of a Creator or implicit to our existence as independent beings, whatever your belief. The right to be free is born into all of us; as is the right to practice this freedom.

Thesis-worthy evidence, to be sure. Hey, you can't knock the statistical validity of it, I have a vast sample size.

Which would include religious persecution by those who do not believe in religion, I would assume. I think that the free exercise of religion is very, very important. The thing that must be remembered is that one cannot violate another's rights in order to guarantee one's own. That is crucial to every argument over rights and laws protecting them, in my opinion.

A semicolon may also be used to join to phrases that could be complete sentences separately, but flow better when joined. Example: "We crested the ridge just as the moon rose; our reserves were about gone since we had been climbing since dawn." I believe a rule of thumb is that you can use a semicolon where you would use "and" to separate two thoughts or phrases.

minx - while being noseless would make it harder to keep your glasses on, you might find life a lot simpler; liberating, even. Plus, you could always wear contacts or get Lasik surgery.

How do you know? That's an awful tiny river to make such a huge canyon. Maybe an enormous runoff (like, from a flood) caused by tectonic uplift made it. The same thing happens when I pee on soft dirt.

Shift a little to the right, that's it. More comfortable now?

Further trivia: A friend's grandfather worked the quarry back then. He used to live out in the Index area during the week and only make the ONE DAY TRIP back to Seattle to see his family on the weekends.