Alpinfox

When I go to the chat page I get a broken link image (white square with red X). What do I need to do? p.s. I just got a new computer, so maybe I don't have the right flash/java/whatnot installed?

MisterE got the FA on this "Roadside Arete": It was nice of Distel to hold Mr.E's chalkbag during the climb. Distel slaps some slopers:

I saw one of these couples this weekend. Friends of Mr. Crackbolter. The female was a wicked good boulderer. I agree it's rare, but they are out there. ladies. I think I remember TangledUpInBlue talking about teaching her BF how to ice climb. edit: I just remembered, I also know two married couples in which the wife is the better climber.

If you have two belay devices (one above and one below the knot) the climber doesn't need to secure himself during the transfer, just unweight the rope briefly to allow the belayer to remove the upper belay device. I've done this for TRing long ice climbs. I don't know if that is how David's group was setting it up or not.

Dats true, you did say 4, I'm just messin witcha. I think the traverse is harder than the V5 I was working on though. It don't matta. It's gonna fall to the BoulderFox as well!

Swiftwater is a picnic area on Hwy2 at about mile marker 90. Picnic area is on South side of the road. There are boulders on south and north sides. Link for candy-ass beeeeeatches! Haha! Distel tried to tell me that "Footless Traverse was "V3"!!! You be sandbaggin' me!

Yeah, I mean, just cuz distel can only boulder V8, we shouldn't call him a candy-ass little BEEEEEOTCH!

Oh yeah. I wuz dere. The V5 will fall next time. I am sendbot! Swiftwater is niftE. Crackbolter, Pandora, and NOLSe were also in attendence.

Lets see the GPS record and hear from those witnesses!

SUCK!

She was a level-headed dancer on the road to alcohol And I was just a soldier on my way to Montreal Well she pressed her chest against me About the time the juke box broke Yeah, she gave me a peck on the back of the neck And these are the words she spoke Chorus: Blow up your T.V. throw away your paper Go to the country, build you a home Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches Try an find Jesus on your own Well, I sat there at the table and I acted real naive For I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve Well, she danced around the bar room and she did the hoochy-coo Yeah she sang her song all night long, tellin' me what to do Repeat chorus: Well, I was young and hungry and about to leave that place When just as I was leavin', well she looked me in the face I said "You must know the answer." "She said, "No but I'll give it a try." And to this very day we've been livin' our way And here is the reason why We blew up our T.V. threw away our paper Went to the country, built us a home Had a lot of children, fed 'em on peaches They all found Jesus on their own

Hey Jon!!! I'm Rick James, BITCH!!!!

Hi Loren, No one at the WCC meeting on Wednesday took any "minutes" as far as I know, but I can give you a good idea of what went on. Basically, about two dozen climbers who are actively putting up new routes in Washington got together and talked about the specific problem of Infinite Bliss and the pending meeting with the USFS and ALPS. A few people told anecdotal stories about their past interactions with land managers. We discussed the need for an organization to represent climber's interests in land use debates and to give angry/concerned land managers someone to call if they had questions/concerns about a specific climb or climbing area, or if they had questions about climbing in general. It seems that this would allow many problems to be fixed while they are still small/local problems and before the whole USFS hierarchy up to the Washington DC level has gotten involved. We discussed what a group representing Washington climbers should look like organizationally. Everyone agreed that the WCC would need to include any climber who wished to participate and should not be exclusionary at all. Obviously finding a consensus among climbers is going to be difficult, but it is probably neccesary to make a strong advocacy group and I believe there are many issues that ALL climbers can agree on. We discussed how to expand the WCC in the near future and plans were made to setup a website and emailing list to do just that. We also discussed what sort of things the WCC could do to soothe land managers fears about route development and explosive growth of a climbing area. One idea discussed was to post signs at climbing trailheads laying out some general guidelines for route development or asking for a voluntary ban on new route development/trail building or whatever is appropriate to that specific area and agreed upon in an open meeting of the WCC and other local climbers. I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff, but that is a good start of the description of the meeting. There were a lot of well known climbers there and people had some very good things to say. I was encouraged by the apparent willingness of all those folks to get together and solve a common problem.

Gerg said: Wow that's freakin' tiny! What is the "problem with action shots"? Have you taken it climbing? Durability? Weatherproofness? Battery life? http://www.pentaxusa.com/products/cameras/camera_overview.cfm?productid=18283 Hmmm.... maybe it's time for me to think about an upgrade. Some things I just thought of that I DON'T like about my Olympus Stylus 300. -Movie mode only shoots 16 seconds of video and NO SOUND! -Hard to properly focus on a climber in the middle of a pitch looking straight up or down (I imagine all autofocus cameras will have this problem) -Lens cover sometimes slides open or part of the way open in my pack or in my pocket (I don't keep it in a case) which can run down the battery and possibly allow the lens to get scratched. This doesn't happen often as I usually keep the camera around my neck when climbing or inside my hat (canadian translation = toque) in my pack. I've pretty much learned how to avoid this problem, but it annoyed me a few times.

Lots of previous discussion of this question: David_Parker's thread OffWhite's thread Alpinfox's thread I got the Olympus Stylus 300 because it's small, lightweight, 3X optical zoom, great battery life, weatherproof, and has an all-metal body (impact resistant). I'm happy with it. It doesn't take the sharpest/best pictures, but its so small and lightweight that I carry it on all climbs and can whip it out mid-pitch, on lead and take a pic. Happy shopping.

Dru, Can you post a picture of this setup?

It is my understanding that land under the management of DNR can have various designations and each of those designations allow different uses. This PDF file lists some of those designations and explains what they mean. It also seems to be the case that different districts of the same land manager (national forest for example) can have different policies toward a particular use.

My motivation behind making this thread was not for people to get in a debate about whether I.B. is a good route or not. My goal was to try to get climbers of all sorts to contact land managers and let them know that you care about access to climbing on public land. If lots of people do this, they will realize that we are a significant user group and will pay more attention to issues important to us when other groups (like the ALPS) make complaints or when new land use policies are being formed. If the WCC is ever going to have any bargaining power with land managers, the land managers need to believe that the WCC represents LOTS of people.

If you insomniac asshats need something to spend your energy on: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/353193/Main/353193#Post353193

There is going to be a meeting today (Thursday, 5/26/04) involving the newly formed "Washington Climbers Coalition" (WCC), the Access Fund, the National Forest Service, and the Alpine Lakes Protection Society regarding the climbing route "Infinite Bliss" on the west peak of Mt. Garfield. Under discussion will be the potential hordes of people heading to the route, the impact of the trail itself on animals/plants/habitat and various other stuff. Possible negative outcomes include removal of the route (bolts), a ban on future route development, removal of the trail, prosecution of route developers , and other bad stuff. Climbers need to have a voice in this discussion in order to be heard and have our interests addressed/considered. If you are interested in supporting access to this climb and climbs like it in Natl Forest, please contact "The Man" at the address below and let them know that you are a climber and you want to use public land for climbing. The pressure of user groups is what directs public land policy formation. Please speak up to support climbing! Cheers, -Pax North Bend Ranger Office 42404 SE North Bend Way North Bend, WA 98045 (425) 888-1421

You guys need a hobby. Might I suggest climbing?

Find your picture in the gallery (or any picture posted on the web) and right click on the image and click on "Properties" At the bottom of the little window that pops up you will see the URL address of the image, something like "http://www.somewebsite.com/images/blah123.jpg". Select that address and copy it (Cntrl + C). Now make a post and select "image". A little window will pop up. Paste the image's URL into that window and hit return. Or, click HERE to get the cc.com FAQ page about how to do the same thing.

If you are talking about the bug that redirects your google searches to something called "cool web search" or something similar, you need to get a little program called "CWShredder" and it will take care of it. Worked for me and worked for MisterE.

Voila!