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I have not read Twight's book but I've heard the legend. Anyway, Cracked is right on here. As I got older and more sedentary, it became more important to cut weight where I could. Cracked mentions some very simple ways. I would add that I bought a Kelty pack, one model down from the Cloud and love it. Simple, 5000 cu in, and 2.5 lbs. Stephenson Warmlite tents have been my favorite for thirty years. 3lbs 4oz and you can easily crowd 3 people in and weather a serious mountain storm. I love polarguard 3D. my bag, pants, and jacket are 3D. My ice ax is lighter too. There are a wide variety of axes for different uses. Alpine harness instead of a padded crag harness with loops. Smaller lighter locking biner. Everything else has multiple uses. My stoppers are slung on slings I can use as runners. My helmet is a glorfied bicycle helmet by Grivel. I use bread bags on my feet and thereby keep my socks dry and clean. No extras are needed. I pack my water next to my back so I can melt snow as I climb. Anything else out there?

Pinochet was the dictator in Chile. Not Argentina. You're right. This is from the PI Chile honors Allende on Pinochet coup eve Wednesday, September 10, 2003 · Last updated 6:58 p.m. PT. Chile honors Allende on Pinochet coup eve. By EDUARDO GALLARDO ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER. SANTIAGO, Chile - Salvador Allende, the Chilean Marxist president deposed in a coup, was honored Wednesday in a ceremony at the palace were his life ended 30 years ago.He died defending democracy and the dignity of his post as president, said his daughter Isabel, a wr Last modified: September 10, 2003 I had Argentina on the brain because of their dogged adherance to monetarist principles as they tailspinned into economic oblivion. I personally know a man who was CIA in Chile in the early 70's. It was late and I was writing fast. But I was still RIGHT!!! Wish I had time to continue this during the day but alas this damn job keeps bugging me.

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC. War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses. I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag. I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. - Smedley Darlington Butler, Major General - United States Marine Corps [Retired] [Awarded two congressional medals of honor, for capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914, and for capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917, Distinguished service medal, 1919, Retired Oct. 1, 1931, Republican Candidate for Senate, 1932] Expanded version http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm Add'l background on Gen Butler http://hqinet001.hqmc.usmc.mil/HD/Historical/Whos_Who/Butler_SD.htm --

I just read the whoooooole thread. Thank you all for agreeing that GW has f---ed up enough. Vote anti Bush. Of course, most of you will not vote at all but that should be reserved for a different thread. I do not have hard fast numbers but there are a few observations that I find interesting and would like to share. First, Tax rebates are a simplistic form of monetarist economics that the republican party clings to even after 12 years of it failing with Reagan -Bush followed by 8 years of prosperity under Keyensian policies. Bush loses big on that one. Second, the US has a long history of smashing foreign governments, democratic and otherwise, when it helps our corporations make a profit. Study latin America at the turn of the century. I'll post an interesting letter from a general from 1933 when I get to work tomorrow. Third, the way we helped Pinocett in Argentina was by organizing the assassination of their democratically elected president. Yes, the CIA was there in force. Why didn't we do that in Afganistan and Iraq? Cut off the head using murky means and let the assholes shoot each other. It takes time but it works far better in the long run. All we did by attacking Afganistan was piss them off and unify their wavering factions. Iraq could have been settled with one well placed bomb. Mark my words on this one folks, what we did in Iraq will go down in history as the biggest mistake of the 20th and the 21st century. We are only making it impossible for those who support us to be supported by the wider Arab world. Remember Israel? Arabs do and they do not think of us as being separate from Israel. We need to find a graceful way to exit Iraq ASAP and continue to help with the rebuilding. Fourth, We have been lied to and our grandparents' grandparents have been lied to. Our first three presidents did not want the job. Anyone who does want it should be automatically disqualified for reasons of insanity. TRUST ME, nobody gets the nomination of their party without telling a bunch of big whopping lies to you and me. Our campaign finance system has left us prey to the highest bidder. Currently that is Halliburton. You do know that our VP was CEO of that corp before he joined Bush's ticket? Cheney personally oversaw the rebuilding of Iraq's oil production infrastructure after our first desert tantrum. Fifth, the Bush family has no connection to you and me. They are about as warm and fuzzy toward the mainstream American as a cat is to a mouse. Bush has reservists and national guard over there for a year. He is yanking funds from programs that help the middle class and pouring them into the military industrial complex. Sixth, President Eisenhower stated in his exit speech that the greatest threat to democracy was the growing power of the military industrial complex. He was a republican by the way. When Bush senior started to attack Clinton for his actions as a young man, it was Perot who stopped Bush in his tracks by saying something to the effect of, "Do you really want to open up what you and I have been doing for fifty years to make the billions we have made"? They were both up to their ears in government defense contracts. How do you think GB senior could afford to give GW $38 million? It was a earlier Bush who made millions on a loan to the Nazi party for the purchase of weapons building equipment. For my money, I'll take the party that gave us the guy who got a blow job and lied about it. To quote another poster: "Flame suit on".

Yep. And remember, when you write that check, "Halliberton" is spelled with two "l's". I stole that one from Yahoo.

How is that gulley that takes off just downstream of Trout lake? I've looked up it a few times but I always have the girls with me. It looks really good for a thousand feet or so. Anyone been up it and have beta?

Well I know I'm respectable.

Simple and a favorite of many. Wrap fish in foil. leave top open to pour in a little dark beer. Put a few tabs of butter here and there. Sprinkle liberally with chopped chives. Seal foil. BBQ or bake for 25-30 min at 350 (depending on size of fish).

oooohhhhh YUMMY Add grated ginger to taste.

You do know the stuart lk TH is closed right?

The next generation was supposed to come along "soon" when I was in the FS 20 years ago. Your last few sentences are seem more realistic. I used to think that I wanted my secret spots to stay secret. Now it is obvious that Big Gov and Big Business are in a partnership to keep the masses out of the wilds so they will not have any particular interest in it. Case in point; fee demo.

I worked for the FS for a few years and my father was career FS. He was label a "malcontent" after complaining about waste in road planning and offering alternative plans. They forced him into early retirement under Reagan's initiative to cut costs in the buerocracy. My experience with the FS was similar and yet more satisfying. In the same two week period I met with the Region 1 forester twice. The first time was to deliver the final blow to his plan to open the Bob Marshall wilderness to oil and gas drilling. The second time was to have him present myself and seven other guys with the "Primitive Skills Award" which is the highest award a seasonal rec person can recieve. My position was not funded the following year. The sum of my experience can be summed up thusly: The FS is a very conservative, pro big business, good ole boy network that knows how to lie, does lie, and comes up with incredibly creative new ways to lie in order to justify and promote the policies of the president. Professionalism in any scientific discipline has no place in that organization's management. Expect the worst.

It sounds to me like you are looking for adventure more than a hike. If this is true, I recommend the w ridge of Stuart. There was a good description given a few days ago in the Alpine Lakes forum. It is a really nice long granite climb. Mostly 3rd class with a little 5th near the summit. One 100' rope is all you need plus a few peices (stoppers to 1 1/2") to protect a 80' 5.6-5.7 pitch. You may want a gold Camelot to protect the short 5.7 on the summit block. Descend the Cascadian and cut straight over to the Ingalls parking lot with one minor hump over the ridge. I did it in an easy day a few years ago. I drove to the TH late the night before and bivied there. At first light I was off and jogging (about 5:30 or 6). I was on the summit at 10:30 going medium fast. I was alone and without a rope or pack but the two short pitches shouldn't take much more time. If you have not done this route, it is really fun and very doable in a day. I had a large fanny pack with climbing shoes, 1 ltr water, lunch, and a raincoat. I refilled the water at Ingalls lake and put 2 iodine tabs in it. Pack light. Go fast.

You have just made it irresistible. Only a matter of time now. I'm in.

If one person calls you a horses ass, consider the source. If five people call you a horses ass, buy a sadle.

Assuming you really want to climb, here are some guidelines. 1. If you must post on CC.COM do not under any circumstances reveal that you are female unless you aren't. 2. If you are posting on CC.COM, you obviously are not climbing. That is a problem. Just ask any of the regular posters about their problems. Most of them will list other posters. Posters are posers. If I weren't stuck in an office already, I would not be pecking on a board. Look for someone who posts little or not at all. They stand a higher chance of being out climbing. 3. Do not pay good money to bad teachers. Most climbers are willing to take out a novice now and then. You are a belayer. Your services will probably be valuable pretty fast. Belay slaves are a closely guarded commodity. 4. Fat and weak people do not get good fast. Be strong and reasonably proportioned before asking someone to yard your ass up a rock. 5. Do not read any responses to this post.

When asked what he would do in Bill Clinton's position, Dick Armey replied; "If I were in Bill's position, I would be lying in a pool of my own blood with my wife standing over me asking, "How do you reload this SOB?"".

dont it already have a name? how about 'gladys'? Near the end of the west ridge of Denali?

Set a date. Name a place. Pay for it. They will come.

Yeah. They learned a lot of new words too. Kindergarten should be real interesting this morning. I think that was little larvea's first kid conversation about sex. It took place under the troll bridge apparently. She had all kinds of questions Hey now, my son was playing with Bionicles about that time, he knows nothing of those things... OK. Does "Bumping bottoms" sound familiar to anyone? Comon. Fess up. Bug...how does a smiff kid's ropeup sound???? Maybe early novembe-ish??? Campin' is good and there is lots of stuff in the ez range... Wish i coulda made it...looked rockin'!!! too cold in november for my guys but I might be able to work something out It sounds good to me but actually driving 8hrs to get down there with my kids is a bit of a stretch. All the planning we did was Hillweasel reserved a place and time. The rest of us talked it up. Then we talked some more once we got there. How many kidded climbers are there down there?

Yeah. They learned a lot of new words too. Kindergarten should be real interesting this morning. I think that was little larvea's first kid conversation about sex. It took place under the troll bridge apparently. She had all kinds of questions Hey now, my son was playing with Bionicles about that time, he knows nothing of those things... OK. Does "Bumping bottoms" sound familiar to anyone? Comon. Fess up.

Went for a walk by Garnet MT (a ghost town). After topping out on a rdge and seeing a little bench below and out of the wind, I went there and sat on the obvious rock. Right between my feet was a small jar of bud with a slightly rusted lid. Since I don't smoke, I threw it into the wind and watched it blow away.

good choice, don't ruin a good thang How many do you have Trask?

Both of my daughters actually thanked me for taking them to the ropeup. Whoa. What was in that koolaid? They want to know when we are going to do it again. Right on guys! Dads rule!

Yeah. They learned a lot of new words too. Kindergarten should be real interesting this morning. I think that was little larvea's first kid conversation about sex. It took place under the troll bridge apparently. She had all kinds of questions