Bug

Wankers.

I am going on a calorie burner to get some goals fixed for my July 9-14 trip into the Enchanments. I will pack very light and be moving a lot. Probably leave about 10AM Sunday and return late evening Monday. Anyone interested?

Do you have any little kids? Do you take them into that kind of environment? If you had to take them there, would you carry a gun? A loud pop is a good thing.

Bug- See earlier statistics of who has been attacked. It's not surprising that animals would attack the unaware (bikers/runners) and the young. They don't attack the deer, or rabbits that are watching them either. They look for the ones they can sneek up on and/or are to slow and week to defend themselves.

That's quite the assumption you make there Bug. You do bring up a good point about awareness though. In my opinion there aren't many people who have that sense to tell when they are being stalked/followed/watched. This is probably a good thing too, otherwise we would have many paranoid people hiking with gun in hand because they "think" they are being "stalked". Not to say the feeling isn't always true, just that I don't think there are that many people who are really in tune with their surroundings. As I said, "Speak for the unaware." Calling someone else paranoid without having been in their shoes is usually insensitive. If you have had a large predator expressing intent to eat you, it is disconcerting but statistically acceptable. After a couple dozen times you begin to arrive at the conclusion that they are really serious about finding dinner. Just being aware of a danger is not paranoid. Anyone who has spent a lot of time in the wilderness where predators run wild will call you folks 'city folk'. I didn't make it up. I just point it out. Guns are a way of life for those people. Not for power or crime. They are just a tool to compensate for the lack of claws, sharp teeth, incredible strength,speed and agility and lack of skill with a sharp stick. Peace. Enjoy your woods. You will probably be OK.

Speak for the unaware. I have spent a large part of my life in wilderness areas and was always aware when being stalked by various critters including bull moose. Yes, stalked! Get outside the city limits to formulate opinions on wildlife behavior.

When I take my two little girls out backpacking I am packing. I keep it hidden but handy and would only shoot an animal on the second shot. I have been stalked by a bear and a cougar. With the bear incident, I didn't have a gun and found myself facing an equal size apponent with a pocket knife in the middle of a clearcut. I was able to bluff him but not until he was literally five feet away. The cougar didn't get too close because I had a rifle. But his eyes burned holes in my back.

Can one of you Bend people take a pic of lot 21 on Murrlet drive in Eagle Crest resort? I need it from the back (SW) corner looking North East to get the view and another from the NE corner looking SW to show the slope. Please PM me if you can do this. I will gladly send you the cost of a sixpack.

You are the polyp on the asshole of the universe.

Tofu in squeeze bottles.

I just saw a pair of Petzl/Mozer crampons that were really light. They strapped on with a good looking system that would be easy to fix or jury-rig in the hills. They would be my first choice for the volcanoes. Also do a search on crampons in the gear section. Or go to 2nd ascent in Ballard and ask to talk to someone knowlegable. They fix you up for 20-30 cheaper.

I haven't looked at teh south side of Stuart but from looking at the south side of the mountains around it, Stuart is probably pretty snow free up to 8000', patchy to 9 and firm consolidated snow from there. Or less

"Don't take it personal son. Women always pee in pairs."

The sea is ever changing. Each moment is it's own destiny.

Good luck putting things back together.

Right on. That's my style. Thanks.

Let's do Stuart. Full N ridge.

Mountain bike and trot up to Snoqualmie lake. Dive in and measure shrinkage. Easy day. You will not get real panoramic views from the canyon bottom. The views are nice but you will really have no idea how many spectacular peaks are all around you.

Nice alpine fun. What did those N face cracks go at?

I'll follow the cloud.

Certainly. Bring all the cute girls you want. OK,OK. The S Face would best be done by a team of 2 but having a couple others around doing stuff would be fine with me.

It is true that you pack like a girl, but odds are you would have left the bolt gun next to your tent...back home. Cheap shot. I like it. But it should be pointed out that both of you have been known to use the girl's room.

Lock it in dude. We'll have a blast.

I will be in the Enchantments July 9-14 doing whatever I can. If there is someone who would be up for the S Face of Prussick and other rock climbs at that level or easier. Send me a PM. I do not have a permit but will get one Friday AM (July 9). This may lead to some changes in planning such as Stuart or Dragontail to start.

Thanks a lot Szyjakowski. First thing in the morning I read your TR and get the visual of you in a swimsuit. Excuse me while I take out my garbage. It's full of breakfast.