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Well, my patent agent is billing me crazy on the Mountain Rescue Maximization Unit (MRMU), to be available for the spring REI catalog, but have your people call mine and they can talk licensing. Never mind. My people just applied for the patent. Oh, and my lobbiests are heading for Salem now.

Mind if I steal this idea and market it?

I'm a dad of 3. I know the "look" and the "tone". My powers are infinite.

While your point is noted, the original poster did say;"We are looking for input from y'all to see if this route had been done before."

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Good points. The movie has already been made starring David Niven who dies in the rescue attempt.

THE PREGANANCY.

Actually, climbing to escape vs climbing for the fun of it are different philosophically. If you love your life even if you do not climb, but chose to climb anyway, what are you escaping? "Nothing" is my view. I do not need to escape. I just love to climb.

You need to get married and divorced twice.

We demand media hype. How else do you explain actors being amoung the ultra-rich? Athletes too. It's about escaping our (rhetorically speaking) own boring existance.

Those aren't chicks. Thats Michael and Feck.

Takes me back to the sixties. Who were those "two chicks" anyway?

You were talking about going somewhere else. NOW you are going to hang with the elite. You may put your nose in the air just like the rest of us. Well some of us are just sniffing but that's spray.

I liked the rest of your post.

Economics is clearly not your forte'. The additional moneys directed for the Iraq war came out of the budget at a particularly bad time. Yes, there are other large factors but those only make defense spending that much less beneficial to economic recovery. For every dollar you tax, there is a multiplier of 5 (conservative) for its effect on the general economy. Conversly, for every tax dollar you put back into circulation there is a 5x multiplier on the Velocity of Transactions. These transactions are what we see as retail spending/ health. Retail spending is one of the 5 pillars of our economy and used as an indicator of consumer confidence. Removing those moneys from the general economy and putting them in the hands of a few elite stockholders is what is known as Trickledown theory or Voo-doo economics as Reagan's advisor called it. It didn't pull us out of recesession with Reagan Bush and it will not now. And that is not even going into the effect this kind of debt has on the value of the dollar.

Fine. I'll be happy then goddammit. But I won't like it.

I've made it to three pub clubs and tried to make it to five. You think I'm grumpy now, you should have seen me after driving across Lk Wa and back for freakin nothing because the location was changed after I left work at 4:30.

Freakin-a Let's make it at the Workman's tavern in Redmond so I don't end up drivig a long ways fur nothin. I'll just drive a short ways fur nuthin because you wankers still can't decide on a location until 20 minutes before you meet and by that time I'm already on 520 heaading to the last place listed in ancient history by web standards. Screw it. I'm stayin home.

South of France. Beaches and Limestone.

Starting right now? If I had $ to leave the country I'd go south of the equator. The Andes perhaps, or New Zealand. If I could not leave the country it would be Red Rocks and JT with occaisional forays into the White Throne in Mexico. That area is pretty nice except for the fact that water is non-existant. There is also Mt Lemmon and Tauquitz and Suicide that have occasional sunny days if you watch the weather. For those bone-chilling weeks that come, Canyonlands is a great place to winter hike. Drop in on Grand Junction and the Monument too.

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It's not about them stopping it, it's a matter of them having the integrity required to either defend the decisions that they made *not* to oppose waterboarding, or to castigate themselves for their failure to do so. I'd respect either much more than pretending that they aren't responsible for their decisions after they turned out to be unpopular with their base. The Republicans own the House, the Senate and the White house and the Democrats are STILL responsible for what went wrong. Democrats are really bad people with incredible powers.

I used snargs and pitons for when I was pumped and wanted some extra holding power beyond my tools. They go in quickly and hold body weight pretty reliably. I know, I know, that's aid......

YES! Good work Joseph. Having been benighted a few times, I know your efforts were VERY appreciated.

Dante's then. With the elite. That leaves you out Matt.