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So now you're pregnant?

Right on Pope.

Well at least you're married and getting regular sex. Right?

Great work! Keep posting here to let us know how things are going and keep reminding us to send $.

But seriously, this is a good idea imo. Why not give our climbing bum friends a hand? If you have a skill that needs advertising, why not post it here, now? We can move it later if we need to. So for example, I am a Microsoft platform developer. I currently contract at Microsoft but will be looking for a new job in the fall if they don't hire me full time. I do Web dev, SQL dev, C#, CRM 3.0 and CRM 4.0.

My Canon A720 was on sale last Nov for $223 including tax. 8mp, 6X optical zoom, 2 AA, lcd and viewfinder so I can turn the lcd off, light, compact. Takes a 2G SDA and I think even a 4G. Shoots great movies too.

A peaceful foster home?

I take it all back. You all suck.

I make sausage.

Foster home?

I purposely posted here to see what kind of response I got in a "flame-on" environment. The lack of harshness on this thread is surprising. I must be blocked out by more than I suspected. Compare Choada-boy's replies to that of KasKad... One is openly confrontational and harsh. The other is disagreeing in a humorous manner. Porter disagreed humorously as well. Just an observation. P.S. No petuli oil. Just a lot of work.

:lmao: :lmao:

Uh huh. How many bivy bags were there?

So..... this is a TR about two failed attempts? Cheers guys. Way to get out there and slog!

Dad has not been seen again since that one chance meeting. And yes, he would not recognize his son.

That'll leave you with a lot of free time! That IS one of the other reasons. Maybe I will actually get some work done...........

It is not fake. At least I am not and I have met a few other people on this site who are not fake either. The way we interact is not fake. Normal social protocols are not what I am looking for. If the only path to being "other than normal" is being harsh, then you reasons for being here might be better addressed in an anger management class. The focci of most posts in spray have nothing to do with climbing. Is your harshness in this case due to the fact that my questions rub you the wrong way? Or do you have a logical arguement for why I should censor myself? I do not think you should give a f@#$, but you clearly do. Otherwise, why would you bother responding?

Hmm. My feelings are not hurt. I just see no point in us bashing each other purely for the sake of bashing. It is not an activity I am currently feeling enriched by. "Get a life"? That is the point.

Rob. "Spray is what you make it." Agreed that I am responsible for how I feel. And I am able to respond (response-able) how I choose. Contemplate the focus factor. Porter. LOL.

Lately I just do not have any inclination to fight on this site anymore. I am not sure what has happened. I use to love a good arguement and exchanging ideas about various things. You guys and other genders, are a lot of fun. But I find myself tiring of the harshness. It is not that I think harshness is never appropriate. It is a part of life sometimes and I use it to discipline my children. We all need a kick in the butt sometimes. What makes me hesitate to hang here a lot anymore is the culture of harshness. Harsh words are the norm and the basic, common language. It is the one consistent theme through almost every thread. OK, I have to admit to taking an Isha Yoga course too. It has me all peaced out and more aware of the negative or positive impact I have on the people around me. I know I have been amoung the worst at times so please do not take this as anykind of judgement. I have no underlying need to hurt you guys. Even though may of us do not take these things personally, some do. I just do not feel comfortable partaking nor even exposing my self to large doses of the negative exchanges that go on here anymore. There are better choices available. TR's and info exchanges will be my primary use of the site for awhile. Carry on.

Thanks for reminding me. I'm out of Scotch.

I'm sorry, but that is complete and total bullshit. I reject this as well and it has nothing to do with the debate. I love how you guys are trying to justify the extremist muslims who kill over a friggin' cartoon by blaming the west, and accusing our people of being the "haters" and "nazis". Where death threats are made and some carried out, the individual perpetrators should be sought out and prosecuted. If they resist with violence, they should be subdued with whatever force is necessary. You reject that we are all capable of being Nazis while at the same time standing up for acts that are considered war crimes by the rest of the worls and many of us here in the US. There is no justification for the extremist muslims nor is there any justification for the extremist factions in this country that have led us into another unwinnable war against a global entity whose vast majority had no intention of committing violent acts against us.

Nope. It was brought up by the people who foment hatred against ALL muslims. Did you see the "I doubt it" part? Regardless, dwell on that feeling. This is patently unjust. A workable solution that directly addresses the specific problem is needed and deadly force is warranted. Free speech is the issue in the original discussion. Unfortunately, it turned to hatred of all muslims rather quickly. I cite Deitrich Bonhoffer. He was a catholic priest and a renowned philosopher. He chose to stay in Nazi Germany in order to fight the good fight against the Nazis. He was one of the masterminds behind the nearly successful assasination of Hitler in the bunker. My point is, what made people "Nazi" is in all of us and it takes people like Deitrich Bonhoffer to show us the way. Deitrich was at once proof that a people is not inherently evil and that moderates need to stand up even at great cost. He was the very last man executed by the Third Reich.

I disagree. Someone posted early that if you don’t convert to Islam than you were put to death. Uh….not so peaceful. So atheists are not peaceful either right? Look at China. If you openly practice religion you are persecuted at best. Does that make ALL atheists intollerent of religious practitioners? And there is a Surah that reads something like, A Muslim will respect any pious man regardless of his faith. Read the German article above. Think about how the sane people in the world could work toward peace. Can we really kill all Muslims? Is that what you want? I doubt it. What are the options? I think it starts with looking at ourselves, NOT because we are inherently wrong but because we have the ability to change ourselves without violence. And it will not take that much to remove the fuels that stoke rabid fundamentalism.

Good article.