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That's exactly the kind of idea I was looking for. I am stoked to try out some of these drinks that people have been recommending. I tried salt packets too. I'm not sure if they're good for you or not. I've heard that you only need a very small amount of salt and that ingesting a salt pack will actually contribute more toward dehydration. On the other hand, I would drink liter after liter and it didn't seem to do anything for me. So I wonder if I needed more salt to strike the right balance?

It just blows my mind when I read about Twight eating nothing but Gu's for 60 hours straight. I would be vomiting everywhere at hour 20. I wondered initially if dehydration might have played a part, but I drank galons of water on these hikes.

In the last year or so, I've done a couple long endurance trips. First I did the Wonderland Trail in a push, then the Timberline Trail. My buddies and myself packed food which was about half Gu's and the other half granola bar or other snack items and a thing of real food like a bagel sandwhich. On both trails I've found that the Gu's work really well in the short run, i.e. for the first 30 miles but after that my body starts to reject them. I was still getting some energy out of them but my stomach want to spit them out. I feel like sustained snacking is the way to go on long endurance trips but haven't found a food system that works. What works for everyone else?

Hood is still easily done in a day from Tilly Jane, just a little longer. I don't believe you need to register for the A Frame, just show up. I doubt you'll have company for a while.

With snow levels as they were I'm not too suprised that Ski Bowl was wet. Timberline should have been good though. Of course, who wants to go cross country skiing.

Helping or hurting, eric? Helping or hurting?

You might have to look for a bit but you can always find old silveretta ski bindings cheap. Start hitting the pawn shops. My buddy got his with skis for $50.

You can get the topo by joining the Oregon Mountaineering Association. I know there are some topos floating around though (no I don't have one). I don't know too much about it other than, I've heard you need spring conditions to bring it in, and that it has about a 48-hour season. Good luck!

Standard duct tape works fine, you just need to make sure you have a few layers or it will blow through. Other than that, doesn't the quark come with a plastic fitting for that hole? The old version did at least. I have rubberized splicing tape on my shafts so its not exposed. But when alpine season come, I strip the tools down to the essentials and just leave duct tape which I can pillage for repairs and what not while on route.

Isn't sheetrock more dense than chalk?

Whose interested in getting back on the tools and scratching some rock? Wednesday night?

Big second on that one, I'm currently sporting a three-foot crack on my windshield. Don't do anything to piss off the rigs either. They have this reverse spotlight that they like to shine in your eyes to piss you off... not cool.

South Sister? Have you gone and checked it out? Any good?

Meadows ETA Mid-December... or never!

I think there are drytool routes in the kacedemon (sp?) boulders. I've heard of people dtooling in there. It certainly looks like some of those manufactured routes would be nothing more than peg board workouts.

I might be wrong, as I'm a little confused about the exact location of the closure. But isn't HWY 35 closed from 26 for about 18 miles north? That puts it a long way from the road up toward Cloud Cap. I'm sure ODOT has a lot of pressure on them to get this fixed quickly but from what I've read, its going to be a big job. I hope it doesn't impact the ski season that much because I bought my first pass this year to meadows.

I went up there with binoculars once to scout along that value. From what I could tell, the granite appeared to be fairly featureless (read: crackless). Looked like to make the most of it you would want some bolts. But I've never actually hiked my way up to it. Do some exploration, never know, there might be a quality multi-pitch hidden in there.

See you give the dems congress for two days and were getting attacked by aliens!

Hell ya! Nothing beats a good pump and then a roaring fire and hot coffee while I get ready for another go.

Thats what I was thinking too... looks strange from this angle.

Only if I can find just the right combination of a long pitch, water running just so down the rope into my crotch, and freezing temps so the rare ice feature, nutcicles, will form. Come to think of that, its happened to me twice belaying you. Oh well, you were gunning.

Even if people are just chestbeating, at least were talking about climbing. Most of the posts on this site are spray, which is fine because I mostly don't read them, but its nice to have more climbing talk. Personally, I've checked this thread everytime I logged on, because I want to see what other people are doing. I suppose I'm chest beating because I posted grades that I climbed this year. We'll if I was trying to stoke my ego, I should have lied because most decent climbers can climb much much harder than me. I admire and strive toward people who get out a lot and have accomplished difficult, interesting, or fun climbs, not disdain them for telling people about it, WHEN THEY ASK! November - April - Ski 116 days. Finally can call myself a telemark skier. November - March - Ice/Mixed Climbed 18 days. Climbed Secret Probation, Esmerelda. Soloed Redstone Pillar. Worked Amphibian, Quasimodo. April - Spent a week in the creek, climbed Supercrack, Generic Crack, and just about anything our minimal (triple cams) rack could do. April - Climb Triple Couloirs, Colchuck NEBC, Hood Sunshine May-June - Backpack across Europe, got fat, out of shape. July - Now - 30 days climbing at Beacon Rock, trying to get in shape.

I'm sorry but I'm with the neo-cons here. Unless there is absolute, catagorical, smoking-gun, direct evidence that global warming was a factor than its not. Unless, I hear that global warming got a hummer from its secretary...

A lot of those papers do assume quite a bit of physics knowledge, but its a good start. That coupled with an entry-level physics textbook would probably get the ball rolling. I think we can all agree that a physics manual tailored specifically toward climbers with little physics would be nice. I would think that it would raise awareness of the limitations of systems quite a bit (I know, I know, its your responsibility to learn this in the first place).

I've taken a couple college level physics classes. So I would say, I know basic physics. However, remembering a little bit of vector analysis is a far cry from really understanding the nuts and bolts of the system. A basic physics book would be good. I am not looking for anything in particular. I just thought that if a book existed, which described the physics of all things climbing, then I would definately want to purchase it and learn more. However, it seems that there is no authoratative manual on climbing physics out there. I would imagine that you can find lots of information scattered throughout the web, probably on manufacutrer websites and what not. Anybody know where?