icegirl

training is an interesting thing. it can be convincing your doggy to obey, and sit and stay and such when you give liver treats, OR to be totally responsive to your actions. I am sure there is some combo. This may sound strange, but I try to make my relationship with Espresso less of "she's my dog" and more of "she's my best friend, my pal". Yes, muff, she is the greatest, she is a boxer above most, represents the breed quite well ...

there is something to that (teaching the dog to keep an eye on you) mine does now (took some time and patience), and it is great! [ 11-16-2002, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

he's a climbing dude who's got one of the cutest pup's around...

if he has always had the avatar's "off", then asking for an explaination is not out of line, as he may never have seen the "avatars"... geez, lighten up

Thanks for the update!

Sending out a request for updates on the early season ice... Eastern Washington? Lillooet? Cascades? Did it all fall down? Thanks in advance for not spraying this thread and getting it pulled...

or chew up a ballpoint pen and get ink on the new-ish carpet. D'oh. At least it is watersoluble... but how can you be mad at that face... [ 11-14-2002, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

Lambone, That is one darn cute pup!

those must be some serious milk producing jugs.... that's a lot of mouths to feed

yeah, I think that is right... if you don't have someone to keep them company... and my dog, it would have to be someone she knew and accepted and trusted, or all they would be worth is keeping her watered and from running off...

they are used as such because of their tremendous devotion to their human counterparts. if their human climbs up a wall and leaves them, I would worry that they would be upset... if not because of the "leaving" but because they could not keep an eye on you and protect you.

So far, as a dog owner of the past, and a dog owner of a "rescue" dog, this is the best book I've read (and being a self proclaimed academic, I've read many of them) It really seems the most "right on". I've adopted her style, and we are very happy. So many of those books are scary, the Alpha DOG dominance ones especially. I have read parts of it several times now... I used to train horses. The animals talk to you. I could help even ones that were horribly abused. it is about understanding that horses, dogs and most animals have a different language than humans. accepting that, and working to undertand it. [ 11-12-2002, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

Lambone... Border collie/GP mix. You NEED to get the book "The other end of the leash" by Patricia McConnell (or something like that) both those breeds are discussed in some depth. there are traits of both that would make the not the best cragging partners. (also my personal opinion from owning border collie mixes as a youth on the ranch) but perhaps good training is the answer. I have a boxer now. she is super mellow from her prior life before I got her kept in a small area (kennel and crate for breeding purposes) she does not bark (debarked, but her voice did come back) super patient (not a breed trait) and very very devoted (I am the center of her world - a breed trait) she does not stray when we are hiking, does not chase things (except squirrels at greenlake) and LOVES to be in the woods. BUT: I would be devastated if she fell off a cliff, or down an embankment and got hurt, or got scared and ran off at a climb, or got hit by rock fall etc.. etc... it would be my fault. Once we accept a dog into our life, they are our responsibility. they are like a three year old child that never grows up. Therefore I leave her at home if I'm gone cragging for the day, or with a sitter if I'm setting out for a weekend of adventure that gains more than a couple thousand feet. Oh, and although she has one of the shortest coats know to the dog world short of those funny naked dogs, she HATES heat. We were over in Mazama this summer and she just melted into a puddle of unhappy dogness. Maybe that is just boxers, but I felt really bad... [ 11-12-2002, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

Re: dry tooling is hard on tools... depending on what tools you have, it is also a good idea to change the picks. The cascade and evolution picks on the light machines are precision instruments. It would be a shame to dull them (or worse - break them) goofing around on non-ice/non-mixed route. Grivel makes a heavier pick (the goullotes or the mixte), and I do take the time to change them if I'm out doing something I think might hurt the beautiful work I've put in revising my picks making them "perfect". of course they also make a plastic pick, if you can convince VW to let you play (fat chance) Not all of us get climbing store discounts, and a good pick needs to last us a while That said, Be SAFE, I hope you get in some good toolin', have fun! and stay in the "designated" area, so as not to piss off the rock climbers and get us banned [ 11-12-2002, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

my alpine buddy... http://www.climberscache.net/Images/Espresso/Espresso3.jpg

Dexter and Hayes Pub? they have an expanded downstairs... pitchers are $2 off during happy hour (unfortunately ends at 7pm) just throwing out ideas. . .

there was a thread or two about it last season... http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=28;t=000030 [ 11-11-2002, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

Dry tooling can also be practice on boulders (traversing) dead trees can work as well (I emphasise DEAD). There's a "wall" on the way down to shilshole. Be creative. Be careful. Hook your tools on a bar and do chins. Hang. Carry ice chunks in each hand when you walk to work. Pound nails above your head in a 2X4 for a half hour straight. there are a lot of things you can do to prepare for ice season... they don't "Sound" as cool as just jumping on the ice, but in the end will make for a more solid base to build on. TLG, he's just letting ya know that you're beating this ice thing to death... (and I'm someone who lives for ice season) We can all appreciate enthusiasm, but don't overdo it.

Banks was the exit 38 of washington ice climbing 2-3 years ago. When the ice comes in, Devils PB looks like the Rambles with people lining up to TR the route and dodge deathcicles... So, speaking Banks, and the areas surrounding, how have they fared the warm snap?

communist: n. a radical viewed as a subversive or revolutionary... a female ice climber who does not ski... Hmmm...

snow just covers up the ice

I thought the 12 guage was for shooting down the deathsicles....

unconditional love for a belly scratch... can't beat that....

hey! where was TLG?