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Good lord you people are uptight! Yammering endlessly about "good style" and "bad" and "wrong and right"! It's like you guys are trying out for the 4th grade play, worrying about impressing Krista Smith and mommy and daddy and if you'll remember your lines and if people will like you tomorrow in class. Sheeit, go out and climb and have fun and quit worrying about sheit like "style", "proper etiquette" and such. I mean really, ask yourselves, why the hell are you climbing in the first place? Go out and rip! Fuck what anyone else thinks about "style".

Yes Merv, sounds like he was as traumatized as you! By the way, have you thought of my offer for filming rights? You went strangely and unusually silent.... Oh, and how's City Park going? You've been spotted aiding your way up the thing again....

Cool shots! I was in Haida Gwaii kayaking a few weeks ago; wanna go back in winter to the west-side....

Great; now I feel like an ass meddling again. Go at it, playas.

I guess I did jump into something I didn't know anything about.... Lambone, you're an ass, plain and simple. I don't remember you being this bad last time about a year ago when I was around....

You crack me up! You think you can be condescending, sanctimonious, pompous, haughty and derisive, yet when some troglodyte shows his evolutionary past with a few swear-words and invectives, suddenly you have the audacity to define the parameters of fair-play? Damn dog, deluded mofo....(I say that with love in my heart!)

East Asian Studies....What specifically?

Without knowing the history of this little "Lord of the Flies" episode, I can't claim perfect objectivity, but with the present observations up for view, it gives me enough info to smile a little at the collective manipulations being directed at Lambone: "I'm disappointed" "You're too sensitive" "That's so low" etc etc.... I personally find that everyone criticizing Lambone seems bitchier and more base than anything I'm seeing from Lambone himself....

So DRU, anything new on this?

I take it you googled that image; I'm curious as to the search parameters you used. Humor me with this information.

I can understand MervGriffin's rancor regarding qd's in wilderness settings. I can also see how many would not consider leaving draws (in a location such as the one in question) a big deal, considering its setting; after all, it is close to human development, barely qualifying as "wilderness", no? Roads, ski areas, parking lots, all within shouting distance? Hmmmm, the multi-faceted nature of human beings' views and positions.... such a quandary! Such a potpourri! So very many things to consider! We know Don's position: No quick-draws! It seems as though the perceived REPRESENTATIONAL VALUE, ie. the function of said qd AS SIGNIFIER of malfeasance and, shall we say LAZINESS and DISRESPECT FOR OTHERS, is really the driving force behind his discomfort regarding these qd's (and perhaps bolts in general). Don came of age in an era when climbing represented the very antithesis of what it has come to represent today; Don came of age in an era when climbing was EXCLUSIVE, functioning outside the radar of mainstream commodification (and all its attendant usurpations of individuality); Don came of age in an era when climbing still represented an ESCAPE from the common plebian mind-set of consumerism and trivialization, functioning as a mystery in the same way that the "fort" of our child-hoods functioned- a place you could go and leave behind the banality of our collective desire for safety and predictability above all. The bolt has commodified climbing, making it accessible to more mind-sets than one might have ever dreamed possible; the bolt has also killed vision, killed the exploration of uncertainty and fear (after all, isn't it uncertainty and fear that we collectively despise, surrendering so much of ourselves simply for the security of relationships, jobs, material accretions, and anti-greying creams?). The bolt allowed one to say "mine", while risking very little in the process; a loss, to be sure....(I would love to say some things about the Indian Vision Quests, for I see a correlation, but will forego the opportunity due to impatience.) The Bolt is predictable in its hardness; the Bolt is predictable in its inflexibility; the Bolt is steel, machined and unforgiving, entirely supportive of a (climbing) culture that we have become: conditioned reflexivity, choreographed predictability: robotic engram accumulators informed only by our sheep-stock brain-stem Functional Conformity drives and impulses (I threw up all over the produce-aisle at Whole Foods yesterday: never ingest LSD in such a setting unless you're at the top of your game and can engage heart-chakra energy to neutralize The Lizard). The Bolt is of the same material as our war machinery, hardened to pierce that which threatens us, disagrees with us; as such, it is not only representational, but actual- a movement beyond mere symbol, an actual physical and physiological causality existing a priori to any concept web we might introduce to explain it; hence, the visceral reaction we see in subjects such as MervGriffin. He may be quite right that the Bolt is the harbinger of death, raining symbolic and visceral certitude in the form of cessation of creativity with as much force and horror as the weaponry currently used by the others who fear opposition and uncertainty around the world. Perhaps the death knell has already sounded; perhaps the organic life-cycle of Climbing Creative has already come to an end. Perhaps it is time to leave the corpse to the fetid masses, allowing them their obsessive necrophilia whilst we watch with compassion and understanding, knowing that new horizons are waiting for those with the insight to see.

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That's why a representational form of government, as practiced in most(?) European countries, seems a bit more democratic.... Greens have seats, commies have seats, etc, thereby lending a voice to the many views that make up any country....

Sir, with a modicum of intelligence, one might glean from my post a rather succinct and direct reply to your original topic (one that you seem to have swayed wide and far from); namely: "I will NOT go and remove the draws from the 'eye-sore'". In fact, I WILL PAY YOU if I may film you removing them; as a matter of fact, I will pay you $50 for the filming rights. If you remove the bolts, I will add another $50. Just think: This is your chance to make some money while ridding the world of evil. Now why don't you sit down and think about this offer, huh? Sit down, please....

Have we all forgotten Donald's original post? Donald Donald Donald; you sure know how to work a crowd. If you are trolling around for a response, you've done good, and proven yourself to be a masochist of the highest order; if you are serious with your "I really DO change people's minds", and "People DO take me seriously" remarks, then seemingly you are a deluded individual. It's self-righteous people like you who do more to damage relations between disparate view-points than just about anything I can think of (George Bush, anyone?). The tone of your opening salvo above pretty much guaranteed the reaction you received, and would make it worth the loss of a few quick-draws just to see you sweating away up there in your quasi-religious huff-n-puff clipping from bolt to bolt, removing satan's spawn from the poor defiled virgin stone that you have taken such a fervently protective interest in (do you speak in tongues, by the way?). So, I invite you please to go on and remove the most offensive blasphemy ever known to man from the wilderness setting in which it so offends you; but please do me this favor: please please allow me enough notice so that I may attend the event and capture your heroics on film, so that we may have (strictly for our progeny, mind you!) a testament of one man's driven passion to eradicate a terrible scourge and evil from our midst! Waiting for filming rights, Mel Gibson

Since when did the term "faggot" become so accepted at cascadeclimbers? (Scott Harpell autosig) I thought there was a ban on hateful speech here.

the south couloir approach to the west ridge.

Anyone done this lately, or have any info on conditions? Specifically, wondering about snow in the couloir for the west ridge approach. Thanks.

Hopefully not. Like climbing in general, there is no magic bullet solution to excelling at it Hope all you want; it still won't change the facts. I believe down-climbing might just be the magic bullet for onsight climbing, as evidenced by your yuji hirayama anecdote. I don't think yuji would be down-climbing just to put on a circus-show, do you? I wonder if he'd be able to down-climb Mortal Kombat? First anchor to ground reverse red-point. Now that'd be something, eh?

Celine: Exactly what he wants to be reading on an outdoor adventure!

Oh and you like poetry? ts eliot's Four Quartets stirs the brain matter, and works well with being in beautiful places. And then Mary Oliver hits it pretty well sometimes. again goes good with the outdoors.

The Bears and I. They made it into a Disney movie too. Book's better.

yeah, right. Another attempt to get Bush and neocons out of the loop.

Is this foto undoctored? that's a great fotog, either way!