Terminal_Gravity

Last pub club I attended ( see photo above; Thanks anna ) I brought 63 kegs. We managed to not quite kill one single keg of triple. Seriously: whats the best estimate of number of climbers???

How many people? How much should I bring???

Yes, there is fresh snow. Last Thursday it was about 4 inches on the talus in Boston basin.

Ironic, I just bought the book.

I also agree with the basic premise of the above post. But the simple fact is, lighter is faster. I suspect that the benifit is equal or even greater for people of marginal fitness. Example... Mark Twight (when in shape) could get 4000 feet of vertical on a 25 degree slope of Neve with 10 pounds on his back in an hour. It would take me 2 and a half hours. But I am sure that there are people out there that would be sucking wind and take 8 hours. Add 50 pounds. MT & I will probably go half speed. He would keep going but I'll be pretty spent and ready for a rest. Fatty, however, will take all day and have to sleep it off and start sore and grumpy in the morning just to finish the first 4000 feet. Something that is not often mentioned is that distance is increased even more than speed. If you are lighter you not only travel more distance per unit of time but you can travel longer before exaustion. So the gain is exponental. Even of greater importance is on technical ground. A truly fit person might be able to safely pull a 5.8 layback move with 60 pounds on their back...my hand would pop. But I could layback 5.8 with 10 pounds on my back any day of the week. The point is, light is just as, if not more, important for the non-extreme athlete. All of the above not withstanding, "Light and Safe" can only come with a lot of experience. You have to know what you can do without and what you need. That experience doesn't even have to be in the mountains. (example: Wear your cloths and grab your 30 degree bag and spend the night in your neighborhood meat freezer at -10 degrees. You WILL suffer, but if you start to go hyper or the suffering is too great you have learned a lesson that will keep you alive in the mountains...as you walk out to your car, crank the heater, grab the wet wipes and find an all night starbucks for that Latte) If you didn't bring enough for what hits you...you die or get rescued. I treat the knowlege of what to bring as if it is just as important as the knowledge of technique, avy assesment, gear usage, nutrition etc. etc. etc.

You heading up this way afterwards? Gunna make it to the OR rope-up at smith?

I will accompany 2 or 3 of my kegs for sure.

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Is free beer provided with the job??

I really do need to hire someone. As of yet, I have not gotten a single PM with a phone #. I would be happy to call anyone that has questions...I think that a phone call would be much better than trading PM's. PS I have returned every PM regarding this but I think that some did not go through, If you were hoping for a reply and did not get one, let me know.

Freshies down to 7000' last night

Should have taken the one I'm offering. Some Money More Beer More Climbing

Wet rocks in October...Ice in January...you decide.

Well! when are you coming out this way?

I can't say never, but not for a long time anyway.

Happy B-day, Jeff. Sorry I won't make it. Enjoy the beer.

Perhaps we need an employment forum, to go along with the new rock climbing forum. Sorry, Alex. I get your point. If it weren't for the fact that the climbing is a good reason for somebody to move here, I guess it would be totally inapropriate to post a job offer on this board.

"Blue Velvet" was prolly the best thang that ever heppened to PBR

Making beer is a beautiful blend of art and science. It takes passion and diligence to make it. If you don't have that, your beer will be marginal at best and the best marketing efforts won't fix it. They will only garuantee that any profits realizeable will never do anything accept line the pockets of the fucking marketeer bottom feeding slime. When I was plant engineer at Portland Brewing 10 years ago I found out that the VP of Marketing and his main assistant made more money that the entire production staff, collectively. YES, All of the hard working people that made the beer, cleaned the tanks, bottled and kegged and warehoused and busted their ass to try to acctually produce somthing made less money than a couple of marketing dicks. ( Welcome to america) I don't have to buy in. Let's see I have bought 2 banners at $90 dollars each and have donated beer to just about any worthy cause. That is the sum total of my marketing efforts in 7 years of brewing. I am the most consistently growing small brewery in Oregon. In fact I am now the 8th largest brewing company in the state. I think Portland Brewing is 5th and they produce about 35 times as much beer as I do, sell and market it all over the US, scam money out of thousands of beer enthusiast by selling worthless shares of stock. You can feel the desparate , downtroden attitude of the production staff. Guess what, Little Terminal Gravity Brewing made more profit that giant Portland brewing for the last two years...That being said, I'm sure the marketeers and upper management, personnaly made a whole hell of a lot more than I did....at the expense of the workers and the share holders. PBC is just one example, Widmer and Bridgeport are just as bad and Pyrimid is so heinous that they scammed the employees out of their savings to buy shares. I really don't aspire to be like those breweries. I like making good beer, I am thankful that people enjoy it and am really happy that I can pay rent and buy climbing gear. Corporate brewers can kiss my pimpley white ass.

No I missed it ...or I would have found you. Can you PM me his e-mail?

People don't get rich as brewers, but I pay well above the average brewer wage in rural america. I currently am paying $12/hr for a fully trained brewer plus an annual bonus. Starting wage would be lower.

I need to hire a new Brewer, Cellar man, Keg Shlepper. No experience necessary...In fact I, I don't want a "know it all" home brewer. The best would be a professional brewer or a smart, strong/healthy person, enthusiastic about work, beer and climbing. If your into climbing or the outdoors, Enterprise OR is a truly great place to live. ( That's why I opened the brewery here.) Rock, peak bagging, backpacking, alpine and water ICE! As well as great fishing, hunting and boating. Benefits...Free beer, paid vacation after a year. 25-35 hours per week, relaxed, non-corporate work environment. No fruit, no honey, no wheat and no marketing departments. Ask ?'s ( or spray) here... or send me a PM with your phone # if your interested. Thanks.

If 1+1 only = 2; then by marriage you haven't gained anything. The whole sure as hell better be greater than the sum of the parts. If it is no more than equal than I expect the marraige is based more on weakness, insecurity & need than love, growth, fullfillment & common bonds. In that case overnight outings probably would be out of the question. A good relationship should not have to be defined by things like, leagal papers, terms, restrictions or demand. It should be muatually and collectively additive and expanding. Love is not restrictive, It makes you want your partner to be happy and fill their soul, even if it makes you face your own insecurities.

Rob, I have had the same problem only if I am warm or are using coated bags. With uncoated bags and non cozy warm bags for the temps I have had really dry cloths in the AM. I Think the worst for transporting moisture is the Gore sleeping bag product ( I forget the name) Particularly below freezing.

I've experienced that, back in the college days drinking coffee pretty much non-stop during term paper/ final exam crunch. After you take in enough caffeine, I think your system finally just rebels and shuts down. Maybe a self-defense mechanism so you pass out before you can kill yourself? In children caffiene paradoxically acts as a sedative. Perhaps you were acting particularly childish that day? It is my understanding that apart from the caffiene, coffee has some trace chemicals that provide some very mild euphoric feelings and can be mentally relaxing. Furthermore, I have heard that caffine has a threshold amount below which it does not act as a stimulant. That amount is about 225 mg for a typical person...about a cup and a half of moderate strength Aribica. I can't site my reference nor do I know if this is really true, But I have done some experimenting and it seems to work. One Spanish Coffee...puts you to sleep. Two Spanish Coffees..keeps you up Four Spanish Coffees..You blow chunks!