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Ok, I've read all the posts about the evils of the Fee Demo Program and am considering going without one in protest this year. I think this thing really sucks and will only open the flood gate for further fees and more bureaucrats. I want to hear from some of you who have been beating your chest about not paying for these things about what have been the consequences. Who has actually 1)gotten a ticket, and then 2)not paid it, and then 3)taken it to court. Has this just gone to private collection agencies? Have the tickets just faded away, or are they like fine wine and just get more expensive with age? No theory here please, just comments from actual climbers (or others) who have actually gone through the whole process.

I like that, never get involved with a woman who won't get dirty. I can relate, right now I'm trying to ween my girlfriend away from needing kleenex in the wilderness. Farmers kleenex is the way to go. I think I still have about 4 months work to accomplish this. I'll make sure to let everyone on this board know as soon as this has been accomplished.

Today it is my turn to contribute to this important thread.

Damn, I just got some really impressive looking Edelweiss and Trango stickers with my new gear that came today. I was gonna put em on my Outback, but I think I'll have to get a "My other ride is your Mother" sticker instead. Just when I'm on the cusp of looking cool, someone here has to start this post and expose me for the shallow, materialist, bandwagon, climber-wannabe that I am. I'm going down to REI right now to return some old socks so that I feel better.

[/qb] we're waiting...[/QB] Oh, er yeah, uh, this is the most important thread in the universe.

Thanks for the info! I just ordered a pair of those with the x/01 on the bottom a couple of months ago. Down to MSR I go.

REI thread is re-opened right here! I seems like everyone has had the same crummy experiences with REI. Someone in the thread said it perfectly that REI would be happy selling nothing but fleece which they make a real good profit on, and only consider the climbing equipment as a bait to get you in to buy overpriced fleece and Nalgene bottles. I like the idea of creating a new co-op. Put em out of business.

I've found REI help to be hit or miss with about 90% in the miss range. But I really don't expect to get too much serious advice at a place that size in the first place. THE BIGGEST FLAW WITH REI IS NOT STOCKING WHAT YOU ADVERTISE!!!!!!!! I've been in there looking for bicycle tires in November and told that "it's not bike season." What the holy fuck is "bike season?" Same with climbing. Even their clothing selection is typically limited to (at least in mens) xs or xxl! What the fuck! How many men that would call themselves men wear xs? Order more of what people buy, especially since you're the ones paying the slaves in the Dominican Republic to make the shit. Earlier this year I called during a sale to see if you had MSR snowshoes in the store (on sale for $99) and they said they'll be in tomorrow. I called the next day 3 minutes after they opened and was told that they had just sold out! How many pairs did you have in, 3? This is fucking inexcusable. I felt totally ripped off. A store the size of REI should carry climbing gear YEAR-ROUND, and snowshoes are used enough around her to carry them YEAR-ROUND as well! This is why I never feel the slightest bit of guilt when I take old shit back. Does anyone have any experience with returning climbing ropes? That would be the most stylish way to retire a rope that I can think of........

Nice pictures!

Trask, thanks for the recipes! Maybe I'll do some baking this weekend.

I like the NRA sticker idea! Anyone got any extras?

Ditto on the renters insurance tip. I pay about $10 a month and it covers vehicle break ins. I had about $3000 worth of equipment emptied out of my van in Anchorage a number of years ago, and I got most of that cash back from the insurance co. The only time insurance ever worked out in my favor. We could go down to Smith Rocks and leave a Subaru unlocked with an intentionally sabotaged climbing rope in the front seat. Then sit back and watch the news. The next climber to take a fall in that area will be your thief!

Blame Canada (from South Park the Movie)All four Moms Sheila: Time's have changedOur kids are kids are getting worseThey won't obey their parentsThey just want to fart and curse!Sharon: Should we blame the government?Liane: Or blame society?Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?Sheila: No, blame CanadaEveryone: Blame CanadaSheila: With all their beady little eyesAnd flappin heads so full of liesEveryone: Blame CanadaBlame CanadaSheila: We need to form a full assaultEveryone: It's Canadas fault!Sharon: Don't blame meFor my son StanHe saw the darn cartoonAnd now he's off to join the Klan!Liane: And my boy Eric onceHad my picture on his shelfBut now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself!Sheila: Well, blame CanadaEveryone: Blame CanadaIt seems that everythings gone wrongSince Canada came alongEveryone: Blame CanadaBlame CanadaSome Guy: They're not even a real country anywayMs. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer it's trueInstead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecueEveryone: Should we blame the matches?Should we blame the fire?Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?Sheila: Heck no!Everyone: Blame CanadaBlame CanadaSheila: With all their hockey hullabalooLiane: And that bitch Anne Murray tooEveryone: Blame CanadaShame on CanadaThe smut we must stopThe trash we must smashLaughter and funmust all be undoneWe must blame them and cause a fussBefore someone thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus

Don't forget Washtucna!

I must have passed you guys on the way down yesterday at about 2:30pm. I was there with my girlfriend and we both had the red MSR's on. The clouds were really coming in right then. Woah.

Joetool, any tips on a recipe for pemmican bars? I saw some info about homemade gu awhile back, but that sounds like a big mess and probably not that cheap either. This article may reveal a potential for expeditions food supply. http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/03/22/fish.food/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/03/22/fish.food/index.html

There is an entirely separate level of hell where all insurance people go when they die.

It's snowing so much they just shut down Snoqualmie pass til at least 10pm. Last time I heard about this happening people were stranded for maybe 24 hours or so. Now I'm glad I didn't play sick and hit the slopes today! http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/road/mnts/mntbas.htm

Yeah I watched it. Seeing that kind of fatique on TV made me open up a left-over Guiness from St Patty's day and promptly fall asleep after checkpoint 23 or so. Imagine how much GU they ingested during that! I would love to do that course, but one or two courses per day, with time for wine and cheese fondue in some of those amazing huts. Did you see where some of those huts are located? They build these things way up there near the top of the Glaciers! Switzerland rules!

1 - 2 feet of fresh snow expected in the cascades in the next two days!!! I wanna get on some rock too but when the snow's this good, it will have to wait! Start the fake cough at work today cuz tomorrow will be fat wherever you decide to go!

Most of the prices were a joke! They had a broken pair of Salomon Snowshoes for $9 less than they are charging for new! All the more reason to never hesitate to return ALL YOUR USED MERCHANDISE whenever it suits your needs! That's the last time I go to one of those things.

Hmmm, Beckey, Telluride, Mountain Film Festivals........ Are you sure this isn't going to be a new episode of South Park?

quote: Originally posted by AlpineK: Dude two words: Meth Lab That's an excellent idea! You'll make tons of cash, and have some serious endurance for those long approaches!Red, if yoo speled on yor resuhmay lik yoo do hear, they wont eaven look at yor aplicashun. It's called Spellcheck for a reason.

Most of the Forest Service roads have been built with your $ to subsidize the welfare timber industry. These are your roads, you have already paid for them. Logging industry vehicles are not required to have a Northwest Forest Pass, but we are.