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So Fiddler's Inn it is. Here's the address: 9219 35th Ave NE (between 92nd and 93rd on the west side of the street). Check your favorite site for driving directions if you're not sure how to get there.

I'll be there around 9ish. Gotta get in some kayak rolls before I show up.

So Dave, are you moving pub club to noon? More time to drink beer huh? Is the Buckaroo big enough? Perhaps we should check out the pool tables at the Ballard Alehouse again.

So where are we drinking tomorrow night? Is it Tacoma's turn again or do we have one more week in Seattle?

Redmonk says: "you are not the real pop tart... hiker wa... back me up dude..." [ 07-22-2002, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: ehmmic ]

Can't imagine that consumption of herb would be that helpful at high altitude. You just don't feel that great above 15k or so. I'd be more concerned about the high zapping motivation to keep doing the things I need to do, like melt water, cook food, etc. because I'd be too fascinated by the clouds and other stuff. It's difficult to breathe and I can't say the smoke would help. Higher up your body doesn't function the same so food isn't as appealing, even if you are hungry. And feeling like shit already decreases motivation. Although I can say that at low altitudes it helps me focus on just climbing up rather than exposure and my fear. So I end up being able to do harder rock routes than when my experience is not herbally enhanced.

quote: Originally posted by erik: ...but in the long run, the gains from climbing are paltry compared the things that i gain from interpersonal action. wheter it be climbing or soccer or just hangin out and meeting new people is what i see the greatest thing in life. climbing cannot even compare. it is a sport and not much more..... Absolutely correct, Erik. One of the best things I have gained from climbing is all of the great people I've met and the comraderie we have when spending time in the mountains, at the pub, or hanging out anywhere. It's been a way to find a community up here in the NW. Climbing is one sport that I feel comfortable with and I tend to like most of the other participants. I'm sure there are other sports that also have cool people who do them.

quote: Originally posted by joekania: I guess I would be completely miserable if I didn't climb. It is either an escape, a form of self-destruction, or something I found that actually makes me happy. I'm going with c) makes me happy. Also a good substitute for dating- first you become infatuated with a mountain, find out everything you can, get to know it, commit to a line, reach a climax; after the initial rush wears off, you see another, more attractive, mountain; then you suffer the rigors of a descent, the process begins over. The biggest plus to this analogy is that the stories are much much more entertaining. Not to mention climbing is an initial turn-on for a girl, then a total turn off when they realize you'll be spending weekends sweating and grunting with guys far from toilets while risking your life on a widow-and-orphan-making hobby. So I might as well climb as much as I can, right? It's all clear to me now...so this is why guys who climb can't understand how we women can have as much passion for it as you do. Get over it. I climb because I love being in the mountains. I like living out of bounds and out of the back of my truck. I like the physical and mental challenges and feeling strong. And sometimes I like hanging out with you male climbing fools because you make me laugh with all of your bravado and need to spray about yourselves. The fact that you have to mark every interesting thing you pass by pissing on it is also a pretty funny thing.

Have fun at the Alki tomorrow. I'll be on Baker for the next three days and won't have any beer. Gotta go lightweight you know... So drink a few for me, and have a few burgers too. See you next week. Cheers!

Jarred - Yes. Gabriel Llano was "Gaby" who did work for Madness and other companies in So. America. I confirmed it with them yesterday. Damn shame!

It is such a small world! I clicked on this post to see if there was some new controversy that was being stirred up. I read about the death of someone local that I did not know and then also learned of the death of a good friend. I climbed with Gaby Llano in Ecuador earlier this year. He is one of the best climbers in Ecuador and had a love for life, people and climbing that I had not experienced before. He was afraid of something like this happening and did not want to leave his young wife and son without a husband and father. What an absolute tragedy! So many dreams unfulfilled.

Doesn't seem to be a consensus building about where to enjoy the weather this evening. How about the Ballroom. Nice outdoor seating and somewhat central location for Seattle. I can't show until about 9:15 and getting kicked off the beach at 11:00 pm sucked last time.

Moon - Erik's current autosig is a much better likeness of Snoop than the previous one. Life isn't fair BTW, so why should you expect a message board to be a place for fairness? The people in control always set the rules. That's just how it works

So was last night a wild pub club? The board's been pretty quiet this am. Sorry I didn't support our southern drinkers. I had Spanish class until 9 and figured I'd get there just as things were breaking up.

Nice work Matt. I wonder what the slowest car to car time is? I think my recent trip up the Tooth with Carolyn and FiggureEight could win that prize. We did it in 9 hours. We were suprised by many parties on the route on a Tuesday. I think we were the 7th group in line that day. Even so it was still a fun day. And we didn't get a notice about parking without a pass.

V's birthday gathering/pub club meeting was great. I showed up on the late side because of class, but got to see some familiar faces who were still around. A small group of us stayed 'til after 11 hanging out and settling the bill. Thought I'd mention that people had to pony up some extra coin to cover the tab. If you forgot to contribute to the pitchers or for your food, please chip in a bit extra next time so the guys/gals who paid more than their share can drink for free. Cheers!

Call the people at Rescue Specialists in Leavenworth. They do a great WFR course and used to do a high angle rescue class. They stopped doing it other than for groups, but am sure they can recommend a good company. www.rescuespec.com Good luck.

as always Dwayner an accurate and humorous trip report.

Plan to join either the Yosemite Sep trek or the jail party. Whichever sounds more fun at the time...

Uncle Tricky - the knot may be called a figure 9. I'm not sure. It is a standard figure 8 follow through knot with the tail passed back through the knot loop on the bottom as a backup knot. I think we're talking about the same thing based on your description. On fisherman's knots for rappeling, if you tie a square knot before tying the fisherman's you will always be able to untie the knot.

I vote for the Zoo. Let's try someplace we haven't been yet.

Wow. What a tragic incident. Thanks for sharing the report. It's hard to know what happened, but the knot inverting and untying itself could have been the problem. I feel compelled to also comment on another variation of the figure 8 knot that I use (and many of my partners as well) to tie into the rope. If you pass the tail back through the knot and pull it all the way through the knot can intert if there is a lot of force placed on it in a fall. The knot comes untied if it inverts twice. If you like this tie in method better than using a fishermans or other backup knot, the way to make sure it doesn't invert is to leave a few inches of rope out the top of the turn and to completely dress the knot. If the knot inverts it will catch itself on the tail and only invert once, not twice.

I think I got the name wrong. I was thinking of the Ale House too. But if others are down with the Alki I'll go there. Hikerwa - do they still have $0.75 burgers on Tuesdays?

Owl & Thistle or the Ballard Grill were good locations that could handle a crowd our size.

It was a fun time despite the early last call at 11:00. I'm glad we made it back from our day out on the Tooth, showing Carolyn another fine alpine climb. See ya'll next week.