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To summarize: 5.4 pro = technique Mounties = suck Gary, CBS, KK = gaper apologists RuMR = midget CBS = pwned by Minx carry on

And da mounties all love you too Minx. Say hi everyone. HI!!

Crowds? What crowds?

Dial 1-800-6-Gapers

Wha happen?

That's pretty solid advice CBS. You should probably heed it.

So does every similar college and outdoor club program in the country due to a little term called "liability" and those wonderful humans we call "personal injury lawyers".

Nice job dudes. Glad to see somebody is out there gettin some.

"Invest"? You can get a Sierra Designs Wild Bill (+20deg polarguard 3d) for $89 @ campmor. Replace it in a few years, no big deal. 2-5yr depending on use is about right. Don't compensate with a heavier bag, just replace it when it loses too much loft.

Kaska, there is an implied competence with someone a climbing organization has designated a "leader". It is in no way similar to hooking up with a random cc.com person.

More coffee and plenty of fiber should set you right.

Thanks dudes. I enjoyed it and it was good to meet all of you. See ya in the fall.

I didn't check Bill, I'm not sure exactly when I'll be able to get loose, don't have a cell, and I'm way down at Crack a myass. So I figured it's easier for all involved if I just get up to Fremont. It can't be more than a mile or so up from the 82nd/Fremont intersection to the pullouts. If I get there early I'll just hang around the first pullout I come to. I'll have a gray pack, blue hat, tan shorts.

If you see my ass hitching up the hill, pick a brother up yeah? I'm going to try to get out of here around 4 and catch a bus up 82nd.

Around 4 or 5. I lifted your phone num off an earlier post in this thread, I'll try to give you a ring this afternoon.

What day holmes? I got internet access in my hotel so I can check back. Or call me at the Monarch Hotel on SE 93rd. Tues, Wed, Thurs free after work hours. Flying back Fri.

Umm, I believe his source is this note the date:

My cheap ass company, the US Army, is spending your tax dollars my friend. So you might be pleased that I'm not living plush Considering I haven't touched rock for 18mo, I'll cry early. If I can't hook up a ride, I'll jet up 122nd on the bus, just gotta figure out a good cross street line to get over to 82nd. I know SE alot better than NE, but I'll figure it out.

I'll be in a conference in Portland all next week. Do you folks do a regular night at the Butte anymore? Will be staying out on the eastside at the Crack-a-myass Town Center area, and I'll be carless. Probably won't be able to bring much gear beyond shoes/harness with me. Anybody game?

Swab! Back to yer hole cabin boy.

I'll give her a jolly rogerin' arrrr!

Just use this one

And you are welcome to drink the kool aid with your abiotic oil cult bretheren. And most medical diagnoses are nothing more than someone's opinion. I can cite plenty of studies, the vast majority of which show ethanol with net negative to 1.6 EROEI depending on source. And this alters the fact that we will not produce enough ethanol via crops how exactly? Talk about an odd point. It takes 15yrs to turn over the vehicle fleet. You essentially made my point with "If I had one of those..." So go buy one smartguy. Which means jack shit until massive projects are built. The larger point being you will not avoid ugly energy shocks because the development and construction time will lag the peaking of oil and likely natural gas production. What part of "long haul trucking" is confusing to you? What percentage of the freight trucking mileage is local delivery and what part is long distance better suited to rail? Are you being deliberately dense? Magic 8 ball says "all signs point to yes".

Educate yourselves: http://www.theoildrum.com Peak production WILL occur within the decade. Whether we have enough demand destruction due to market forces to avoid a hard landing remains to be seen. Two of the largest fields in the world are in decline (Gahwar and Cantarell). North Sea peaked a few years ago. Alaska peaked about a decade ago. We WILL NOT drill our way out of this one. The simple existence of energy sources is not relevant without considering the EROEI (energy return on energy invested...i.e. the net energy after accounting for extraction/production). Many of the hyped technologies are net negative EROEI after accounting for all inputs. We do not have enough cropland to simulatenously feed ourselves and produce enough biofuels (diesel, ethanol) to operate at our current demand. EROEI for corn ethanol is horrible. Not great for tar sands either, which require huge amounts of water to extract (steam is pumped to liquify/loosen). The key will be getting diversity, and getting it before an oil shock sends the global economy into a tailspin or instigates energy wars. My personal view is that battery technology advancement/electric driven with liquid fuel reserves for extra distance is the best bet. We need to oil and nat gas stocks more for fertilizers, chemical feedstocks, pharma, etc than we need it for easy motoring. We will need geographic diversity...massive solar in the sunbelt, geothermal in the Cascades, Sierra, and Rockies, clean coal in the appalachians, offshore wind farms, etc. Getting more freight off 18wheelers and into rail helps as well. It's more efficient energy wise, and removes the truck traffic, which reduces road damage and traffic congestion which itself is a huge drain on efficiency. Lots of tech articles on the site I linked if you look for them. Many academics, oil industry insiders, etc writing for that site and very detailed technical discussions.

It says I'm more concerned with continuing access to desert climbing areas being sabatoged by some selfish media whoring, than about some guy playing rub-a-dub-dub in the big atlantic bathtub. That you're to dense to grasp this..what does this say about you?