Fairweather

Your statement here says more about you than her. I am endlessly amused by the left's general lack of self-reflection when the topic turns to misogyny. An evangelical outlier? Sure. "Lack of brainpower?" Why would you say this?

Hoverboards will be banned from Wilderness Areas.

Yes, it's evidence that deep green-dogmatists are losing former supporters.

Advocacy for preservation is waning in your head. That's about the extent of it. Might I suggest you keep your spray in Spray? In other words, you have no evidence to substantiate your self-serving drivel. I posted some above. Again, I'm going to respectfully ask you to keep Spray in Spray.

Imagine the righteous indignation that would be projectile-vomiting out of Choada and ZimZam's respective holes had these families been dope-addled, smelly Occupy Wall Street protesters forced to kneel at gunpoint before The Man.

The Wild Sky debate comes to mind. Ditto the Mount Hood Wilderness additions. Wild Olympics is meeting organized resistance from former allies as well. Recent op-eds by former reliables back your premise as well. My point is that if traditional and non-extractive access equals advocacy--which I believe to be true--then the strategy of deep ecologists is short sighted. http://www.seattlepi.com/local/connelly/article/Greens-want-bigger-national-park-Fine-let-2197242.php#ixzz1chOVB3sb

Advocacy for preservation is waning in your head. That's about the extent of it. Might I suggest you keep your spray in Spray?

I recall a massive blow down in the Alpine Lakes about 20 years ago that blocked large portions of the Icicle Ridge(?) trail. When the local USFS land manager sent crews up to clear it with chainsaws the following summer, ALPS threatened to file a lawsuit under the "motorized" (actually, mechanized) prohibitions of the Wilderness Act that you mention. Fair enough. The USFS manager, following the letter of the law, instead sent his crews in with hand drills and DYNAMITE. ALPS promptly withdrew their complaint.

The Muir hut (and the entire summit climbing corridor) was intentionally drawn out of wilderness designation because of its popularity. No, the Muir hut doesn't detract from the experience at all--because nobody goes there expecting a "wilderness" experience and, in any event, the legal definition does not apply. What's more, there are plenty of other routes on Rainier that will lend themselves to someone seeking the vague "opportunities for solitude" the WA 1964 alludes to. I don't think anyone would seriously consider doing the hut thing in NCNP or adjacent Wilderness areas. But TTK is 100% correct; the existing structures with historic value should stay.

I agree. There's that too.

Finally, something TTK and I agree on. The dogmatism and intransigence of deep-ecology movement orgs like Wilderness Watch, ALPS, and the NCCC is why advocacy for preservation is waning. For example, just look at the chilly reception that the proposed expansion of NCNP is getting from once-reliable supporters.

Agree with Kurt, you've described a good recipe for AMS. A one day ascent is a great idea, but climbing 9000' to spend the night at over 14,000 feet can turn out badly even for the fittest climber.

Ad hominem non response! Liar! What a fucking drone.

j_bot's words in a nutshell: "Your speech bad, my speech good. Your speech needs restrictions, my speech should be unrestricted. Corporate speech evil, union and grass-roots speech wonderful. Except, of course those grass-roots orgs with whom I disagree. Their speech should be restricted."

What about Romney or that other Mormon?

I think Boehner's countdown timer just started. I predict resignation by June 1. Any takers?

All governments monopolize force, not just the U.S. It's part of the fine print in the Social Contract that nobody bothered to read. In one sense, I suppose it could be said that America's 2nd amendment goes farther than any document on Earth toward challenging this monopoly.

So, are you a left libertarian? or a right libertarian?

Doh! I was hoping for Fatboy Slim concert tickets. Here's to a holiday ceasefire, Merry Christmas.

= kook = Cook

Almost forgot: it's rebuttal. :kisss:

So, what's he making for dinner?

Nice to see you're part of TTK's personal entourage now. Need a hanky?

Taken together with the context of the rest of his sentence--that I'm stupid--I think it's hilarious.