Fairweather

JoshK, Don't forget to plug Democrat election 2000 misdeeds in Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, into your formula. I thought the Miami Hearlad settled the Florida matter. ...except for a few hard core Bush-hater fringe kooks, it seems!

It's called humor. (first quote above) Something you seem to lack. I have no problem with women in power, as long as they aren't meeting secretly behind closed doors (ala Hillary-care) while attempting to inflict socialist ideology on the health insurance benefits that I work very hard for. So are you saying that Bill Clinton is a neanderthal? I thought my attempt to exonorate his behavior would have curried your favor. Forgive me o great humorless one! Show me where I've ever called anyone "homo" or "traitor". You can't, because I haven't. "Socialist", yes. But then I doubt you would consider that label disparaging.

...and 64% of the American people agree...or at least approve of him! I guess, according to j_b, there are 179,200,000 "neanderthals" in this country.

Now Jim, you're leaving out the part about the IRS completely clearing Gingrich of any wrong-doing in its subsequent investigation. Of course this was long after the press had already convicted him, but who cares about fairness when its a prominent Republican being hunted down. Right? And did Bill and Hillary really sit quietly on the sidelines while NG's book-deal controversy raged? I doubt it. As for j_b's "Neanderthal" comment: Mattp stated in a recent thread that liberals might be a bit smug, but weren't prone to name calling. I guess he forgot about j_b. j_b, I have rarely encountered an individual as arrogant and smug as yourself. Perhaps meeting in person your ego would be more tempered, but I have no desire to ever meet you and doubt I would even shake your hand. I presume you hold post-graduate degrees of some sort and feel this gives you license. Onward, I could draw many conclusions about a person like you but I'll leave it at this for now.

No disrespect to Hillary intended. My jab was primarily directed at 'ol Harvey Manning. I do find Hillary's solution to the Everest problem a bit ridiculous though. It would put a lot of sherpas out of work.

j_b = sexual chocolate What evidence are you looking for? The record is clear regarding the disparate treatment given by the press regarding Hillary's book deal versus Newt's. I have no problem with the $$ amount! That is apparently what the free market will bear. I realize this concept is foreign to you j_b.

Shit! I hate earthquakes. I thought Alpine K just found out where I lived and had begun his attack.

Doh! You are a relentless angry white liberal AK; stalking me from thread to thread...appearing out of nowhere like a bad dream, countering my every point with hollow drivel. Hillary is evil. Gang of four (or was it seven?) type shit. But I'll admit, if she were my wife, my johnson be seeking the semi-cuboidal tissues of other women as well. I can't blame Bill for that one! Oh yeh! Go buy some real skis ass-wipe!

Herr Erich, ...zen perhaps du should climb zeeees, my Tyrolean friend....

Sir Hillary reminds me of Harvey Manning. "I've had my big adventures! Now, lets lock everyone else out and force them to look at the great pictures I took yore...in this book I am selling for only $29.95!"

Good post. Remember the sanctions heaped on Gingrich when he accepted a book advance? Where is the media outrage re Hillary? .....More evidence of liberal media bias. Hillary=Winnie Mandella

I hear you like to turn the stool upside down and impale your anus on one of the legs. Then you try to get old men to buy you drinks and give you tokens in exchange for handjobs.

Well AK.... I hear that in addition to being very angry, you've cut down more trees than George Bush, John Ashcroft, and Gail Norton combined! Not only that, but I have it from a reliable source that you are (quite) a bit overweight and... you are not a very good skier. Civilized debate? ...I'll give you civilized debate motherfuckerererer.

Bush is an idiot, a fascist. He's appointed an attorney general who is a member of the Nazi party and the KKK. Bush is not capable of doing anything good. Like I said earlier Bush sucks dead donkey dicks Fairweather you're a pretty angry guy from some of the stuff you write. AK, You write "Bush sucks dead donkey dicks" and then tell me I write "angry stuff". Are you for real? At least Mattp can articulate his position without the childish banter you throw about. I wasn't aware Ashcroft was both a NAZI and KKK member! Can you please send the documentation? I find it extaordinary that this story has escaped me. I gotta listen to NPR more often!

....don't forget the "Unabomber" matt! I believe he had a copy of "Earth in the Balance" in his shack. We could both dig up a litany of killers on both sides of the political spectrum, here in our country and around the world. However, you were the one who put forth the premise that liberals were just a little "smug" but otherwise harmless. I never claimed that extreme right-wingers were a benign lot. And I believe it was that magazine photo (Rolling Stone?) with the naked Dixie Chicks on the cover....they have dozens of words like "traitor" and "treason" printed on their bodies...It was the dixie Chicks themselves claiming their free speech rights were being stifled. I'll say again; the free market can decide what is free speech ala Jesse Jackson, or whomever. As long as it isn't the government denying us that right, I'm OK with it.

I'll accept that there is a separation: a) Liberals. Patriotic Americans with whom I (mostly) disagree. b) Leftists. Now, Catbird, would you agree with the inverse?

....but it's OK to lump radicals and conservatives?

Seems to me that those on the radical left are the very ones name calling (ie:"baby killer","shrub" "bush is a terrorist", etc), screaming (ie: blocking roads, throwing bottles at cops) and torching things (ie: ski resorts in CO, SUV's in car lots, research labs at UW and elsewhere, "Street of dreams" homes.) Do you really stand by that one Matt?

You hit the proverbial nail on the head with that statement Dwayner! They're angry. They're white. And they're liberal. GW in 2004! Condoleeza Rice in 2008!

Looks to me like the tree has taken a hit from a small lightning bolt.

I recently had the pleasure of meeting Matt in person. Great guy. His trip reports here inspire me. He climbs like I wish I could...and a lot more often! But that doesn't mean I have to agree with him re politics....although I suspect there is much more common ground than you'd think.

Yes mattp. But there is a big difference between private citizens shouting down each other and governmental attempts squelch free speech. I was under the impression that this is what you implied in your "free to criticize the government/constitutional" statement. Maybe we're talking past eachother here. Perhaps you can demonstrate where government ie: the Bush administration has restricted free speech? ...actually, the only example that I can think of is the Campaign Finance Reform Act (bi-partisan) which will soon be squashed in the supreme court.

Mattp, where did you get the idea that I don't support criticizing the government? Hell, I was doing it for 7 of Clinton's 8 years! I think you're trying to create a shift in this debate. Hollywood stars have a right to rant all they want. Some of them may even want to speak out in favor of our government's policies...if their unions will let them. Trask has a right to speak with his wallet, although I think he and I will miss a lot of good movies if we take this stand to the nth degree. Free speech works all ways. Even for talk radio, wouldn't you say?

Who else but our own dear Fairweather would utter such a sentiment. A paen to his uncle Joe. Catshit, If it were a sentiment, I would not have ended the sentence with a question mark. Just a thought-provoking post.....and I can see, as usual, you liberal-knee-jerked it. On another note, I do find it interesting that when conservatives exercise their free speech with boycots (ie: Dixi Chicks, Danny Glover/MCI) they are acused by the left of "attacking the free speech rights" of said groups or individuals. Hmmmm. Smells like liberal hypocrisy to me.

Maybe Mcarthy was right about Hollywood???