Fairweather

Looks to me like he's giving the finger to the reporter/photographer taking the photo. Maybe he's tired of all the reporters waiting like jackals for he, or his buddies to die instead of reporting about the schoolhouse or police station that the troops just helped rebuild down the street. Maybe you just want to believe he's givin' GW the bird. Hell, maybe he's giving you the finger.....like I am right now.

Thanks for the posts, Dox. I was taken aback by "David M's" letter. He seems to be saying that commercial activity should be eliminated (!) within the park, and seems to subscribe to a more radical interpretation of The Wilderness Act. Additionally, he seems to believe all (?) man-made structures should be removed from the upper mountain. Also, I guess I did not realize that Westside Road was such an "overused commercial corridor". "David S'" letter, on the other hand, reflected my own views virtually to a tee! I think the arbitrary "solitude" provisions of The Wilderness Act are, and have always been, outrageous. His letter puts into words what many feel; that parts of The Mountain can't be considered places in which one seeks solitude. Basically, I support the status-quo on Mount Rainier. (But I would like to see the guide shack eye-sore removed and rebuilt to more "alpine" standards.)

You may find it interesting that annual "defense spending" is third place in US government expenditures, and nowhere near the 2 trillion spent by individuals/governments on energy.... http://policy.house.gov/assets/ann_rep2002.pdf BTW Scrambler, The book might be worth a look. Using free markets to solve problems..... I doubt you'll get many big government/lefties to hop aboard though.

Not that we're gonna' change any minds here, but.... Sunday, November 16, 2003 The New York Times Book Review is considered the industry bible of what’s hot and what’s not in books. But the publication is coming under increasing fire for what some authors are calling a liberal bias. “I think a paper that says ‘All the News That’s Fit to Print’ has a responsibility of covering most things,” said Doug Dutton, manager of Dutton’s bookstore in Los Angeles. “But I think it would be disingenuous to say that the New York Times doesn’t have a leftist slant.” Critics charge that writers like Michael Moore and Joe Klein get reviewed, while others like Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly and radio host Laura Ingraham are ignored. Others, however, defend the Times. “I don’t think it’s a matter of shunning them because of their political slant,” said John Baker of Publisher's Weekly . “I think it sees itself as having the responsibility to pursue the intellectual zeitgeist as it were, and … not in things that it regards as comparatively transient in terms of political whims and currents of the moment." But just what is behind the selectivity? While the Times did not respond to repeated requests for comment, the paper did offer an explanation to author William McGowan’s letter asking why his best seller "Coloring the News" was never reviewed. The Book Review’s editor said the paper cannot review every book and, like any business, tries to provide coverage that appeals to its readers. However, some of the most talked-about political nonfiction of the past few years has been left out of the Times. Joe Conason's “Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth” received a glowing review from the Times, while David Limbaugh's “Persecution: How Liberals Are Waging War Against Christians” was ignored. Ann Coulter's “High Crimes and Misdemeanors,” a best-selling book critical of President Clinton, was overlooked, while pro-Clinton books like Sidney Blumenthal’s “The Clinton Wars” and Joe Klein’s “The Natural: The Misunderstood Presidency of Bill Clinton” were both reviewed. The Times loved “The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century” by columnist Paul Krugman, but ignored McGowan’s National Press Club-winner “Coloring the News: How Political Correctness Has Corrupted American Journalism,” which attacks affirmative action in media. “I don’t care if their standards are 'we won’t review anyone who’s just putting out, you know, a pop book that we consider not an intellectually serious book,'” said Coulter. “But, come on, are you telling me that Michael Moore, Molly Ivins, James Carville, Al Franken are putting out deep, weighty, intellectual books?” Michael Savage's “The Savage Nation,” which spent 18 weeks on the bestseller list and topped out at number one, was also ignored by the Times, while Ivins’ collection of essays that were critical of President Bush was reviewed twice, after only spending six weeks on the list. Coulter’s “Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism” spent 13 weeks as a bestseller, but was not reviewed by the Times, while Moore’s “Dude, Where’s My Country?” was reviewed after spending four weeks on the bestseller list. Franken’s best seller “Lies And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right,” was reviewed the week it was published, while O'Reilly's “The O’Reilly Factor” was never reviewed. But, with 11 weeks on the bestseller list, O’Reilly recently remarked to Ingraham, “We don’t need them to review our books.”

I have never suggested that anyone be banned/censored/whatever. Indeed, Nerco posting pictures of a woman licking the twin towers, even as a Boeing 767 impacts the structure, only serves to promote my position that his ideas are 100% bankrupt. Re MikeAdam, I was simply pointing out what I perceive to be a double standard. Dr Flash deliberately provoked him and then cried like a baby when he realized the fruits of his foment.

...And when Dr Flash suggested MikeAdam "save a round or two for Bush" when he returns? That was Ok? I realize the sentiments of DrFlash and Nerco don't constitute an overt threat, but IMO they come very close to the line. The hatred and desire for violence expressed by these two idiots is an interesting contradiction to their proclaimed desire for a civil, peaceful society.

I can only hope your post activated "CANNIBAL" and the FBI is kicking down your door at this very moment. Pray that we never meet. Once again, I refer to the fact that Mike Adamson was kicked off this board for making threats, but you and Dr Flash are still free to make assinine and tacit threats against the life of the president. Fucking pricks.

Which is the largest glacier in Oregon? a.) Elliot b.) Whitewater c.) Collier I'm not sure of the answer. Over the years, I've heard and/or read of each taking the prize. Maybe this is due to volume versus area differences? (ie: The Emmons is the largest glacier in Washington, but the Carbon, and possibly the Blue on Olympus, actually contain more ice.) Anyone know for sure?

That's classic left-wing paranoia you're suffering from, Narco. Get help. Are you saying I must choose between the Nazis you now imagine to be in charge, and the Stalinists in your political dream world? ....hmmmm.

Who could forget this gem?...

Was that with the younger Don Johnson?

...or just downright lame.

Slaughterhouse 5

Science trumps environment. It sounds like it can be done with only minimal impact. Who knows, maybe they will eventually build a super-collider from Icicle Creek to Mount Daniel! Maybe then they'll keep the Middle Fork Road open.

I'll second "Brazil".

I zink u mizzed za point, ya?

...and who killed the conservative "Dr. Laura"?

OH REALLY, Scrambler?.... I think the folks who died in this aspirin factory believe otherwise.

Wow! Sounds like a good, easily accessible rep! Wow! How 'bout you post your psychologist credentials for us all to see. ....Last time I checked, "Wyoming's values" were solidly in the "R" column. (Both Senators, and one rep. anyhow...) Maybe what you were really talking about were "your" values? ...And your inability to include "balance" as one of said values?

....You answered your own question there, chucK. "Anti-bushies preaching to the choir". What's the point in arguing with a lock-step, hysterical group like so many of you here? Maybe we should just let the chips fall where they may, say, in November next year? ...Ah, but then many of the left-fringe here have utter contempt for the electorate at large, and would simply explain away a second Bush term in their usual pompus, arrogant, self-absorbed way. I will say this: I don't like GWB as much as I dislike the Democrat(ic?) alternatives.

This statement belies your complete and utter lack of understanding re the complexity of this issue. Putin had the guy arrested not because he was a corrupt oil baron, but because he was becoming a political threat. His action will likely now throw the struggling RF economy into even deeper chaos. Putin, who I have admired until recently (and for the most part still do), is taking Russia down a dangerous road. Dangerous for us too.

Hey! That leaves my right hand free.....

Our Australian Shepard loves those things too. They must be laced with cocaine, or sheep endtrails, hooves, or something really good.

Don't get me wrong here Fairweather. I would love to see more campsites and fewer hotel rooms and $60/night tent cabins. I just don't think tearing down an 100 year old building that is in the historic registry is the right way to gt them. Also, I hate the Sierra Club, but the educational programs they run out of the monument are just about Yos history, John Muir and that sort of stuff from what I know. I don't think they use it as a way to get new members. If he has a problem with the Sierra Club just yank their privaleges for building use, don't demolish it. Agreed. Boot The Sierra Club, and save the building. Sometimes politicians (on all sides) will put forth extreme legislation to make a point or to establish a radical stand from which the inevitable compromise will be more to their liking.