Fairweather

....You answered your own question there, chucK. "Anti-bushies preaching to the choir". What's the point in arguing with a lock-step, hysterical group like so many of you here? Maybe we should just let the chips fall where they may, say, in November next year? ...Ah, but then many of the left-fringe here have utter contempt for the electorate at large, and would simply explain away a second Bush term in their usual pompus, arrogant, self-absorbed way. I will say this: I don't like GWB as much as I dislike the Democrat(ic?) alternatives.

This statement belies your complete and utter lack of understanding re the complexity of this issue. Putin had the guy arrested not because he was a corrupt oil baron, but because he was becoming a political threat. His action will likely now throw the struggling RF economy into even deeper chaos. Putin, who I have admired until recently (and for the most part still do), is taking Russia down a dangerous road. Dangerous for us too.

Hey! That leaves my right hand free.....

Our Australian Shepard loves those things too. They must be laced with cocaine, or sheep endtrails, hooves, or something really good.

Don't get me wrong here Fairweather. I would love to see more campsites and fewer hotel rooms and $60/night tent cabins. I just don't think tearing down an 100 year old building that is in the historic registry is the right way to gt them. Also, I hate the Sierra Club, but the educational programs they run out of the monument are just about Yos history, John Muir and that sort of stuff from what I know. I don't think they use it as a way to get new members. If he has a problem with the Sierra Club just yank their privaleges for building use, don't demolish it. Agreed. Boot The Sierra Club, and save the building. Sometimes politicians (on all sides) will put forth extreme legislation to make a point or to establish a radical stand from which the inevitable compromise will be more to their liking.

Would you deny these groups the freedom to pool their resources and support their common interests? Do you honestly think those on the other side of this issue haven't taken $$ from a comparable list of sponsors?

Oh.

What's that got to do with the thread?

If the guy is hired to do a job, he'd better do it. A bad break for sure, but is it his employer's responsibility to accommodate this guy's personal priorities when they collide with their own goals? Things you risk losing when you climb: Fingers Toes limbs Equipment Wife/Girlfriend Life Job

Personally, I hope the bar-code tatoo goes on my forearm and not the back of my neck.

You got somethin' against punk rock, fucko? Go sit on a plunger handle and stick your ass to the ceiling 'til you get some blood flowing to your atrophied brain, you fucking humorless flag-waving sheeptool. Your inability to function without relying on swinging from Adamson's nutz labels you indelibly as the ineffectual has-been wanker that you are. In short, fuck off. Maybe we'll meet someday. That'll be fun.

Is it possible that the people have spoken here? Ever heard of representative government? Is it possible that people actually want to replace a few of the campsites washed away in floods? Is it possible that The Sierra Club doesn't speak for National Parks? It is possible that The Sierra Club is getting a free ride (at taxpayer expense) in YNP that it can use to spread its not-so-always-non-political message ? Hmmm. I wonder why anyone would dare have an opinion that didn't jibe with The Sierra Club.

Good to hear.

Anyone know how that Seattle (Cerebral Edema) guy is doing? The epilogue said he "relapsed". Hope he's OK.

Dr Flash-Fuck, Your post above makes me wish MikeAdam was in town. I can't believe he was banned, and you are still free to spew your shit all over this site. You fucking moron.

I have to call BS on that. There will be peace in the Middle East when Israel is wiped off the face of the map and no longer exists. The Palestinian leadership has not been interested in peace at any point in recent history and has walked away from the negotiating table more than once. It's sorta of a chicken and the egg thing, but the Israeli's have a whole bunch of Arabic/Islamic neighbors who don't care for them much, they pretty much have to kick ass and ask questions later or they wouldn't survive. AS soon as the US stops supporting Isreal unconditionally, there will be peace. Catbird, That's the most naive statement I've heard in months. Upon what do you base this simplistic idea?

How about Democratic senator Zel Miller saying he'll support President Bush in the next election because [/i]none[/i] of the current Democratic presidential hopefuls embrace American values? Fairweather, please tell us what are American values. Inquiring minds want to know. You'd have to ask Senator Miller that question, but when I watched him on Meet The Press today he alluded to the return of McGovern ideals within the party, and the fact that they don't hold any sway with the majority of today's voters. Especially southern ones.

Greg W, I think the entire racial superiority argument is divisive, if not outright dangerous. Are there indeed differences between races, intellectual and physical? Sure. But on the whole they balance out. With the fact that the USA is an amalgam of almost every race on earth, one could make the argument that racial diversity is what makes a nation great and, yes, powerful. West European, and even more so, Scandanavian arrogance is nothing new. Ditto Japanese and Korean. Ditto almost every race on Earth. I believe everyone is a racist. (Especially liberals!) It is measured in degrees, and it is our duty to suppress this natural impulse.

How about Democratic senator Zel Miller saying he'll support President Bush in the next election because [/i]none[/i] of the current Democratic presidential hopefuls embrace American values? I had free tuition throughout college because of Zell Miller [combined with good grades]... he kicks ass! So do you agree with his stand?

How about Democratic senator Zel Miller saying he'll support President Bush in the next election because [/i]none[/i] of the current Democratic presidential hopefuls embrace American values?

This is the guy you liberals want for prez?..... WASHINGTON — A comment by Howard Dean (search) about Confederate flags and pickup trucks has embroiled the leading Democrats in Iowa's presidential caucuses in a name-calling donnybrook. Balding Click for Free Info "I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags (search) in their pickup trucks,"the former Vermont governor was quoted as saying in Saturday's Des Moines Register. "We can't beat George Bush unless we appeal to a broad cross-section of Democrats." Dean said Saturday that he was intending to encourage the return of Southern voters who have abandoned the Democrats for decades but are disaffected with the Republicans. Two Democrat rivals competing against Dean in Iowa's leadoff Jan. 19 caucuses saw the comment differently. Rep. Dick Gephardt (search) of Missouri, who shares the lead in Iowa with Dean, accused Dean of making a blatant move to win the votes of people "who disagree with us on bedrock Democratic values like civil rights." "I don't want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks," Gephardt said in a statement. "I will win the Democratic nomination because I will be the candidate for guys with American flags in their pickup trucks." Sen. John Kerry (search) of Massachusetts contended that Dean's "pandering" to the National Rifle Association (search) gave him an inroad to "pander to lovers of the Confederate flag." Dean's comment was reported in story about Kerry's criticism of Dean's record on guns. The senator claimed that Dean was an NRA favorite who opposed a 1994 law that banned assault weapons to civilians. "I would rather be the candidate of the NAACP than the NRA," Kerry said in a statement. Candidate and civil rights activist Al Sharpton (search) — who has accused Dean of having an "anti-black agenda" — said he was "surprised and disturbed" by the Confederate flag remark. "If I said I wanted to be the candidate for people that ride around with helmets and swastikas, I would be asked to leave," Sharpton said. In response to the criticism, Dean released a statement saying: "I want people with Confederate flags on their trucks to put down those flags and vote Democratic — because the need for quality health care, jobs and a good education knows no racial boundaries. "We have working white families in the south voting for tax cuts for the richest 1 percent while their children remain with no health care," Dean said. "The dividing of working people by race has been a cornerstone of Republican politics for the last three decades — starting with Richard Nixon. ... The only way we're going to beat George Bush is if southern white working families and African-American working families come together under the Democratic tent, as they did under FDR." The two southerners in the Democratic race, North Carolina Sen. John Edwards (search) and retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark (search) of Arkansas, also protested. "Some of the greatest civil rights leaders, white and black, have come from the South," said Edwards. "To assume that southerners who drive trucks would embrace this symbol is offensive." Clark said, "Every Democratic candidate for president needs to condemn the divisiveness the Confederate flag represents." Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman's campaign weighed in as well. "Governor Dean ought to be more careful about what he says," said campaign director Craig Smith. "It is irresponsible and reckless to loosely talk about one of the most divisive, hurtful symbols in American history." Dean spokeswoman Tricia Enright told The Associated Press that Dean had previously used the Confederate flag image in his campaign. One instance came Feb. 22 at a meeting of the Democratic National Committee in Washington. Dean said the men with Confederate flag decals in their pickup trucks represented lucrative prospects for the party "because their kids don't have health insurance, either, and their kids need better schools, too." The party elite stood and cheered.

Happy B-Day, ehmmic!

Wow! Never thought I'd hear you say that.

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