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Very, very sad. The man was the alpinist I wish I had been. Priceless written stuff. The stories are just pouring out over on ST.

If I had that timing option, here's what I'd do: 1) spring skiing in eastern Sierras for conditioning/beauty 2) cragging at Red Rocks 3) Valley routes in starting late April then into May 4) depending on your cragging interest, think about Tetons, Devil's Tower, City of Rocks for early summer 5) mid-summer you have many options: Bugs, Tetons, Rockies, Cascades 6) later summer continue more of 5) and think about going back to Eastern Sierra for longer alpine routes

I still use iodine tabs. Note you can save some $ by getting ascorbic acid in bulk at the nat. food store; this is what is in the second little bottle often sold along with the iodine tabs. Only need to add a little bit to preciptate out the iodide ions.

The last excerpt is also found in Egan's book, The Good Rain, which is IMO the best of his books on the NW.

It needs a comma after 1971.

Should have called it The Splurge.

The last steps of W's political suicide are now complete. Note Condi Rice is still trying to build her legacy by talking tough to the Russkies.

I kinda like the socialist scheme to invest in alternative liquid fuels research. Even if we fail we can say we tried. We've wasted several hundred $billion in Iraq as far as I can tell (on a per gallon basis, we're paying twice what we did when the occupation began) and I'm ready for a Plan B. BTW: TARP-- awesome choice by the Feds! Almost as good as CREEP.

Way sick. Recall, too, that in the 30s many more people lived on farms so at least could feed themselves. Also, back then we had factories that could make products the rest of the world wanted to buy. Now we have factories of debt.

Only after I complete my final transformation to a Black Socialist will I be prepared to answer your question.

probably tent caterpillars

I have a feeling Palin wasn't McCain's first choice, too. What could that mean if she does bail?

Yeah-- get it tested first. High radon homes are relatively rare around Puget Sound. Not saying you don't have a problem but based on the field studies I've been involved with, it is pretty rare on the west side. if you do have a problem, there are several options.

Thanks for posting this; we will revise our plans accordingly.

Nice job!

Thank you for posting. I am sorry to hear Don has passed. It was great to see the recent postings re: Steins and St Peter's Dome. Also, Don authored many books and articles on SW US geology. He will be missed.

Is that Monika of TurnsAllYear fame?

I am forwarding info sent to me by an associate in Hood River who has received word the USFS is considering road closures that would affect Bulo Point access. This area is very scenic and has a collection of shorter routes. I first went there back in the late 70s before it was developed; now there are perhaps 20-25 routes with perhaps 1/2 being bolted face climbs. Here is the fowarded message: Attention all you climbers - I have just recieved information regarding proposed watershed restoration on the Mt. Hood Forest. This will involve decommissioning some roads. Included on the list of proposed roads to decommission is the 2730-240 road - this is the main access road to Bulo Point. Bulo Point is a valuable resource for local climbers as well as a very popular summer crag with Portlanders. While it is possible to hike down to the crag from the 2730 road it would be much more desirable for climbers to be able to continue using the road 240 for access. The Forest Service is now seeking public input on this proposal. Comments may pertain to the nature and scope of the environmental, social, and economic issues, and possible alternatives to the proposed action. Electronic maps are available online at: www.fs.fed.us/r6/mthood/projects . The relevant map is the 'Headwaters 15Mile Creek' map. Based on my familiarity with the area, I am going to suggest the following: 1- Keep the north end of the 2730-240 road open to the crag. 2-Decommission the southern half of the road. This would protect a spring area located next to this road. 3- Create a turn-around with some parking near the crag. In the future there could also be a bathroom located here. 4- Improve the north end with re-grading and new gravel. Please send written comments before April 21 to: Michelle Lombardo Mt. Hood National Forest, Aquatic Restoration Team Leader 16400 Champion Way Sandy, OR 97055 FAX: (503)668-1413 E-Mail: comments-pacificnorthwest-mthood@fs.fed.us Questions: Michelle Lombardo (503)668-1796 or www.mlombardo@fs.fed.us Public input is very important to this process!!! Please forward this to your climbing friends! Thanks for your help. Kay Kucera

It'll be later than that. You'll need a snowmobile before late June, I'd expect. Also, the Bird Creek Meadows roads may not be open until even later.

2nd vote for Shuk; looking up toward Hell's Highway

Terrible news. Ran into Jim last summer in The Menagerie; thanked him for all he'd done up there to develop it. We talked about climbing together but sadly that won't happen, now. I wish his family and good friends the best in this difficult time.

thinking of heading out there tomorrow. Anyone hear of an update on the trail status? It's not essential to get down via the trail but jsut wondering where the slide occurred.

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Glad it more or less worked out, Kings. ONe question: apparently the road to the Elk Cove TH is okay; I had heard the Laurence Lake Road had a washout. But I would be glad to be proven wrong... you guys came out at Elk Cove and not Vista Ridge, correct?

The problem is at Eliot Creek on the NE side. That section of trail (starting approx 2 miles W of Cloud Cap) had already been re- routed up onto the toe of the glacier several years ago. Last Nov., that work around also got washed out. You can make it up and around by going way up onto the west moraine above Eliot, going across, and then down the east moraine. Depending on how long your trip is, that may not be the greatest option so you could come out at Vista Ridge (but need to work out the shuttle and also use the Lost Lake approach vs the Tony Creek approach).