Beck

Who hasn't sung "workin' on a chain gang" at the end of a real long day?

"Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire, I hold with those who favor fire- But if it had to perish twice, I know that for destruction ice is also great, and would suffice." R. Frost seriously, what I'll focus on as a mantra while training is, CITUS ALTUS FORTIS- fast high and strong And as for training, I'd reccommend just hammering out a commute to work on your bike. Foul weather, oh baby, bring it on! [This message has been edited by Beck (edited 07-12-2001).]

Goin' to the Parkland next Tuesday! burp!Someone from the north needs to pick a spot for the following Tuesday, July 24 [This message has been edited by Beck (edited 07-10-2001).]

Well, it could be crowded but there's a first time for everything!! They've got seating outside too

I'm game to meet in alternating locations, varied locations, my cabin off Denny Creek, wherever, I just want to get IT GOING ON! and start some drinking with all you yahoos out here. Why don't you, Erik, or whoever is South dere pick a GREAT location, maybe the people B'ham way can pick a good North end spot and we get one in Seattle and just make it a regular thing. I'm totally flexible to any suggestions.

Where?

Sorry to hear everyone's making it into such a big deal! For those of you who have OBVIOUSLY NOT BEEN to the Roanoke,it's the oldest business on MI, since 1914, and feels like an old clubhouse- dark wood, no pretense, big windows, huge porch and back deck. I picked it IN the spirit of solidarity as it IS located in a central location for east or southsiders.I don't live in the burbs, I picked it as it's a real nice bike ride across the water to it- come on you guys, quit your griping about a couple people pulling togther something positive and go be angry in traffic or something. Hope some happy types can make it, this is all in the spirit of fun and not an ego-shooting gallery. [This message has been edited by Beck (edited 07-10-2001).]

Hear, hear, ladies and gents(although i use that term loosly on this site)- the first meeting of the Cascade Climbers "We're drinkin' now" Pub Club is called to order tommorrow, Tuesday July 10th commencing 5:30 pm on the deck at the Roanoke Tavern, Mercer Island. Your event will be cohosted by the first two climbers that were able to pull this plan togther. Remember, the party doesn't start unless you get there- Climber type attire appreciated, or just look for the surliest,least cultured table in the place! [This message has been edited by Beck (edited 07-09-2001).]

Scrambling off the Mountain loop hiway, Vesper/Sperry or Forgotten with a six two blonde (and I do mean blonde!) stewardess babe friend of mine then camping out!!

Weekly meetings at a pub in seattle, they can sponsor us and get us tshirts and cut rate prices on kegs to set up at the crags! What would be an appropiatly named bar? The sunset tavern cascade climbers club? the last resort? the Brick in Roslyn( naw, they just tolerate climber types in there!) 7pm thursdays??

Kennedy to Boulder Basin is a quick jaunt up, don't sweat it I've climbed it from Kennedy to the top and it's no big deal. should be a great time on Glacier, enjoy yourself Lisa, and maybe we'll be seeing you sometime!!Sorry I had to follow the thread and put in my two cents worth, As I do love dogs, just not in Natnl Parks, but on this site you've just got to follow the string wherever it's going(although I think I was addressing the original post as well!) Take care, Beck

Canine Parvovirus may not be the virus that spreads to other species, I don't have the specifics memorized or anything.

To the dogowner guys and girls out here following this thread, dogs CAN do more damage in a park than an RV. There is a very common bug dogs live with, I believe its canine parvovirus, if this is transmitted to deer or other types of large mammals the whole population is in danger as it is fatal to these types of hoofed animals. Would you want to know it was your dogs' shit that killed the elk herd outside the park and not the golf course development? That may sound extreme, but as an example, on Isle Royale they had huge decreases in the moose herd in the eighties when some self rightous dog owners figured the dog ban didn't apply to THEIR dogs! The moose contracted this fatal illness from the dogs and DIED FROM CARLESS PETOWNERS NOT RESPECTING THE RULES IN NATIONAL PARKS!! And yes, too many roads/RV's in the National Parks, has anyone seen the highway overpass that's built in Yellowstone near Old Faithful?

Does anyone want to make a not-quite-so-big-a-production out of this and just meet up for drinks some evening after work? Like at the Virginia Inn in downtown Seattle or the Roanoke Inn over on Mercer Island?(I don't live there, but it'sa nice bike ride over there and the roanoke's deck ROCKS!!!) I'm not going to waste a weekend camping in someone's backyard- get real dudes(and ladies) I'LL be going out to the MOUNTAINS!!

I'm up to meet for drinks anytime downtown Seattle m-th after general working hours at a (preferably) nonsmoking bar- I'm totally game into putting the names to a face and seeing what everyone's into.

Me and a couple buds skied back around from melawka lakes off denny creek back to Alpental yesterday and got about 1,000 vertical descent in these north facing bowls dropping back to Snow Lake- excellent 1st of July ski at Snoqualamie pass.

For all you dog owners out there, there is a company that manufactures doggie goggles. I saw them in a copy of "Mountainfreak" magazine, if anyone wants that info leave a note on this thread and I'll see if I can find the company name. They looked like cool bugz type goggles. As an annendunm to Matt and dogs in National Parks, Nat'l Parks are considered "nature preserves" and dogs spread disease to animal populations without coming into direct contact with them (via feces) as well as (potentially) threaten and harrass wildlife and visitors. There's a real good reason those volunteer patrollers waved you off the mountain and to all other dog owners out there, yes, no dogs in any backcountry area of any national park anywhere in US.

A couple buddies and I went ski touring at Snoqualamie Pass on Sunday. We put in over 1,000 vertical feet of descent (not counting yo-yos)in the North facing bowls from Melakwa Pass down to Chair Peak Lake and continuing down to some benches that led us over to Gem Lake, then caught some great touring in the trees from Gem partway down to Snow lake. 15 miles m/l car to car from Denny Creek trailhead up and around Chair/Bryant Massif and down to Snow Lake trailhead at the Alpental parking lot. Truly a fine day of skiing in July at Snoqualamie Pass. [This message has been edited by Beck (edited 07-02-2001).]

Avoid Buffalo Run on highway 20 if you need to take less than two hours to eat.

Great burgers on highway 20 at the burger joint by the river and in north bend there's a great burger joint with chairs that face mount si and scale burgers of course.

The thread of this post was steering towards the "I've never used my emergency knife except to cut cheese" and my posts reflect this awareness of what you really use a knife for. Yes, I can open a swiss army knife with one hand; I can also whittle a ball in a cage and can shave with my knives. Does it matter? No. What does matter is my opinion that - a swiss army knife is more versatile for your outings- yesterday I used mine to clean a rock out of my car's brake housing- carried it all day on the climb and didn't use it till i got off the mountain- sure am glad I had it in my pocket. So, hey, carry what you want if it makes you feel good about yourself, I've got mine and my two cents worth in, too! Beck

Dan E- what do you do with a big knife? Build lean tos and whittle bullroarers and snowsnakes for the kids? Seriously, I have big knives, too, but in my kitchen- And I've also carried a spiderco mini taped shut on a lanyard around my neck, when the handle snapped and exposed the blade inches from my jugular, i reconsidered. I also carried a bigass kabar strapped to my leg for "protection"- when I was a boy scout! I'll still stick with my knife maxims.

Well, the debate continues. Carrying a knife around your neck- not the best place to hang a razor sharp item,particularily if you're flailing about on the end of a rope, most locking folders don't lock closed. To D. Parker, incorrect, sir, you can open a swiss army knife with one hand, and I guarantee you'll use any multifunction tool, swiss knife or leatherman, a heck of a lot more than a single blade- picking shards of quartzite out of your mitts, popping blisters, TIGHTENING CRAMPONS, opening wine bottles, picking your teeth, cutting tape or moleskin, whatever, it's a much more VERSATILE tool than a single blade Here's a poll for all the respondants here to this thread- Have you ever actually used a knife on a wall in an emergency situation, like you needed it THAT SECOND? Or do knives come in more handy during all the rest of the everyday shit? If you grew up in the woods these maxims about knives seems to always be true. #1- Big knife, small d_ _ _. #2- guy carry big knife, not know much about woods.

Gemuttlichkeit! "Dieses rock ist "chossy" ist ser lame.

Try the Bailey Range Traverse- you'll not see many people, that's for sure, but it make for great high country wandering.