Drederek

OK so its IE thats not working, thanks for the clue. Looks like it works on netscape. Thanx and sorry for the bad attitude.

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What Is Traditional Climbing? Traditional climbing, or "trad" climbing, as it's popularly known, is how climbing was always done until fairly recently. In the "old days" of the 1980s, trad was simply known as climbing. It was only after sport climbing took off that a name had to be created to distinguish this style of climbing. How is trad different from sport climbing? In the simplest terms, sport climbing focuses almost entirely on physical challenges, while trad climbing involves a mental game as well. Traditional climbing involves carrying and placing protection (chocks, camming devices and so on) rather than clipping into preplaced bolts. The traditional climber must practice route-finding, whereas a sport climber follows the bolts up a particular route. Traditional climbing requires technical knowledge of climbing anchors and skill in making them. Sport climbing requires little technical knowledge of equipment. Sport climbers think nothing of falling repeatedly while trying to figure out a tough move; trad climbers are careful not to fall on the anchors they place. Trad climbing is nearly always done outside on real rock where no preset bolts exist, rather than in a gym. Who sez REI ain't with it?

the camera button is not working for me when I reply. It worked a couple days ago.

this is a month old, from the lake, can't be much left.

5 dollar throwaways. Very light, no batteries, no worries, clip em to my harness. I've only busted one open and scratched a half dozen lenses in twenty years of abuse. As long as you have good light and not too much contrast they do fine.

Off is the Anti-Raindawg!!!!!!!

Certainly the crevasses will have opened more, they were mostly closed last month. Don't have a clue if you'll be going a little or a lot farther along them to cross now, sorry. We didn't go over anything even remotely dicey and didn't hear a peep outta the big serac we walked by. I'll bet someone out there has fresher beta.

Trip: Mt Adams - Adams Glacier Date: 6/27/2009 Trip Report: My friend Ed talked me into climbing the Adams glacier with his son and him last weekend. The weather was glorius, almost too good. Left Oly about 9am and were stopped by snow on the road about 3 1/2 miles from the Killen creek TH. Undeterred we packed up and headed off. We made it to our camp in the meadow at 6800 by 5 and relaxed, drank water and poked around a bit. In bed at 9 with the alarm set for 3. It appeared the route followed the right side and thats pretty much what we did, weaving back and forth a bit. Only had one baseball sized rock come whizzing thru at 55 mph+. The route was in perfect condition, we were on top by 10:30, no need to rush or use a second tool (although you'd have a very tough time without one if it was iced up). The descent down the north ridge was truly appalling in places, what a pile! It seemed to take longer to walk down than ascend. We got back to camp about 2:30 and layed around for about an hour then packed up to leave. Thats when people started showing up, a couple parties before we left and more that we walked by on the trail. It was a long walk out with extra bit down the road (which was now torn up by 4 wheelers) and we were eating dinner in Randle by 8.

Nice job and TR, I don't think getting these peaks on the 2nd or third try is bad at all. I'll definitely supplement the guide with a copy of this TR when I go for Pershing. Thx.

I thought the first pitch was fine, no need to skip it. The 10a pitches were the best IMO. I wouldn't recommend following anyone up it although you'd probably be fine. Are there any routes on the wall above it yet?

Sorry ma'am, just couldn't let that one go by.

Stupid questions from stupid people, maybe? Here's a nice example ^

On my way!

yep it helped me and yes you do need a scrip.

I've ran into this on the E ridge of Mt Wa, one time I ended up with a softball sized wad of flagging. IT'S A RIDGE! fOLLOW THE RIDGE! Thanx for the excuse to vent

What do we see, about one CC'er per year? You'd think with 19,000 "members" we'd get more.

Still lots of snow above 4500' in the southern end.

I've been using 'take' and 'slack' since the late eighties when I started doing bolted stuff. I learned to clip bolts from outcast mounties. The Brit used 'tension' and '@#$%^&* the &^%$#$ rope' being all formal like.

Going fast on this route is kind of silly, its so much nicer being in the shade all the way. A great way to spend a hot day!

Its one hour from Oly to the Big creek campground by car, from there its 6 mi and 5k el to the top of Mt Ellinor. A nice training hike on trail when the weathers not so nice. Mt Stone is a bit harder and has some scrambling at the top but is mostly trail too. The east ridge of Washington is one not to miss, mostly scrambling up the ridge with some 4th class bits. If you get up in good time you can continue across the wa-el traverse for another 2-3 hours of ridge running. I'd recommend doing the standard route up washington first so you'll know the way down if you're strapped for time. The Bros are mostly trail with a bit of 'schwacking', a good day if you're feeling strong do the traverse. Constance is doable as well and has a great scree slog to test your mettle. The hike up after you park your bike is steep. I'm looking at Warrior but it may be a bit too far for me in a day. I haven't climbed much else that doesn't involve lots of 'schwacking'. If you go for that kind of stuff the possibilities are endless but figure on making well under a mile an hour progress thru it. If theres trees you can find a way up it!

Yes, most every wednesday someone will be out. A decent rain on a tuesday can shut it down as the hillside above tends to drip for awhile. The sun went off it about 3:30 yesterday, thats about when we start. 90+ temps can be brutal!

Fiddler may be one of the best lines at RR but it was put up somewhat strangely. If climbing 15' past a decent stance to a hanging belay is your thing you'll love it! It was definitely put up at a time when boldness was in style, this is truly an r rated route. I'm pretty sure the mostly shallow gear I placed on the crux pitch wouldn't have held a large fall but it does make you feel a bit better. Cloud Tower is a much better route, especially if you like cracks.

Do ya think the cars will be any more annoying than an 8 year olds birthday pasty?

The gravel road is in pretty good shape to the Constance TH. they must have just smoothed it out before the washout occurred. I'd guess it'd work.