Cpt.Caveman

Man I read this hoping to see some slides by Ed Cooper or something. Maybe next time.

There is no other way to summit, unless you can face climb in the hard 5.10's covered in lichen for 30' with no pro and probable death or certain maiming if you fall. The weakness for free climbers is on the north. But it's essentially a solo as mentioned. It deserves to stay unbolted and in it's current classic state. I think the Boxtop is trickier than Beckey let's on. It's all good granite so you'll have no problems- except if you need water on the ridge. Best done for bivewackers in late may so you can carry a stove and melt snow from nearby. After climbing Temple the best way down is probably down Temple Canyon. It's really nice in there.

Seeya.

Use the coathanger for abortions. It's much more "subtle and humanitarian the liberals might say". Fundamentalists were the dirtbags I shot in somalia. At least they had bravery and focus. Albeit through goggles.

IF it's a big groove get a new one and - throw away any suspect gear. If you think that's suspect climb on edelweiss ropes. Just kidding. I dont know dude- I bet I have some markings like those. I dont think I have replaced most of my shit in at least 5 years. I have some as old as 9 years. Filing the shit down is probably a good idea. I usually have more worries than that but not being elitist since I leave biners around once in a while so my rack rotates but not a lot. Maybe the best spot for this is a climbing magazine. My guess is that they will pan to the manufactuer with the comments like buy new gear. For me if I see weird shit I throw it away. But those look pretty miniscule to me- an opinion that you may disagree with. -RB

Tell yourself "Quit eating Burger Sling, quit eating burger sling!" Folks. To blame it only upon cattle ranchers when they get approval is fucking stupid. There's a 2 way street. Although I bet from luna there will be only "his\her answer" as it always seems it's so black and white. I've seen more damaged habitat from humans...............

Heeeello: New flash. There is no clearcutting in the National Park System. You must mean USFS. There's no news flash. But the NPS is not exactly MR Rogers now are they http://www.forewordreviews.com/View-Review.asp?ReviewID=16

ive heard of a fe of those recently. whats the point in doing them if you do not share? i mean i understand the sound of the roto hammer echoing off the walls of garfield is a wonderful thing, but it aint that cool. I've met one of those some might call guilty of the routes you mention. I have not done nor will do them. But from the looks of it- it aint that easy to do the "easy routes"-. So before people come out blasting think. I think some of those routes are pretty stiff with some runouts and many gear placements. I am not a fan of rap bolting but all I have to say is that I am also not climbing any of those routes any time. They look like a ton of work to me. I dont think they are easy or as some may "perceive them to be" like a sport route.

Dear Foot disease, Feet often get cold first. Get thicker boots and yes DO consider overboots, continuous movement, frequent change of socks (to dry) if possible, new footbeds, non tight fitting boot system (socks laces etc), foot powder to decrease sweat, vb liners (trash bags gore tex or whatever works), and most of all KEEP MOVING or go down ( this includes wiggling toes or body movement). If you cant wiggle your toes a little then your boots are possibly too small for circulation the wrong size\fit or both. PS I dont beleive if you body is warm and feet cold that you need a hat or headwarming gear. Otherwise I agree.

I am not missing the point. I am only striking another in contrast. The intent of the park service is probably a good one but let's keep history in mind when we think about it is all I wanted to remark with. I bet I know a "culprit" but that's hardly a tag for the NPS sometimes.

Post it. And if you dont know it's in the coast range around the tantalus range. I wonder if they named it after a condom ? Post any historical facts too.

God damned mother fucking son of a bitch cunt dickwad asshole dickneck cockbiting cumguzzling shithead

They are good. If you lose screws you got too much pro. They definitely are not for everyone though. I mean you might not seem smart putting 15 people in a vw bug but I am sure it's been done. I think my max for ice screws on one is usually about 4 or 5 depending. There's more than one way to skin a cat eh Coopah- yeah I agree with your comments to a certain extent.

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Go count the contour lines on the chief and you can find out. Does it really matter - not much. I've seen plenty of short pitched routes claiming to be 15 or 16 pitches for example turning out to be 8 or 9 in far away places. If the climbing is good it's good. Quit your bickering losers before I make some more death threats Belays in comfortable spots might not be smart to pass up for a bolted shithead station hanging.

dont confuse mountaineering with Mountaineers or Mountaineering Freedom Of The Hillz or with Mountain Madness or with MountainMan with Extreme Alpinism

I think these are the sort of things he wants to know tough guy

Tim I think you are confusing mountaineering with hill walkers alps.

I like these cams the most: Metolius - 3 cams only when I get to less than green size. They walk less.. Wild Country Forged (workhorse that lasts forever!!). I am not worried about horizontal cracks - then I use tri cams. BD = too heavy and way way too expensive. Plus place less cams in a pitch argument is what I stand by. They are pretty good at marketing people into their stuff (had me convinced for a number of years) but I don't buy it anymore. Carabiners- DMM prowire, BD wire (non neutrino). Somebody mentioned those kong biners above - they are good too. Neutrinos suck for winter or anyone with big fingers. They suck for summer too as far as I am concerned they are not worth the money. Yes I can tell the difference between them and the prowire.

what a gem

Death threat. Die die die!!!

You never had anything original to add from the beginning, dicksmoker. like any of your right winged rhetoric is orignal, thought provoking or even pertinent to life? Hey, wank, I never claimed to have an original contribution. CBS did. No need to hold his hand, Erik, he's a big boy. That's ok all of erik's dead boring kill orca baby jesus threads are oh so fart provoking as well.

Plenty cattle likely to graze in the Cascades at: Ingalls Peak, Da Toof, Forbidden Peak

Heheh. Sloppy seconds

I believe at least 2 of the "innocent above" have made threats of violence to mike. I have read it in the past.