Cpt.Caveman

It's pompous is it not? Either way jumbled with everyone else's statements it's easy to misconstrue what is intended... Like I said b4 you cannot police the ice. Some people dont care. My intention about the picked up is that too bad what can you do when some dude from Bolivia that has no clue about CC.com and someone else's ethics is tring Deeping Wall 5 times? I am just stating facts and reality...

quote: Originally posted by Alex: Caveman, if I give you beer, will ya quit punching me? Sure if it is fatty tire or guinness stout!

I have some rope tricks. I'll be using them on icegirl tonight!

quote: Originally posted by Alex: Larson, your a funny funny person. Even if you are mike adam! Alex No no let me confirm once again (Erik where are you?) Dan Larson is not me or mikeadam

quote: Originally posted by icegirl: heh heh.. As for Smith, I've never been, as the people I used to climb with didn't think I'd have a good time 'cause the climbs are all too hard. But, do want to go It looks pretty darn cool... (from that picture, which started this conversation) Smith has so many moderates. People are not telling the truth. Either way drive all those hours is usually not necessary to be productive in WA is what I am saying. But if you have never been there go check it out. I am not a Smith lover..

Buy lots of jimmy protectors!

quote: Originally posted by icegirl: Suspected, but never been! Would love to go! educate! educate! I can educate for free. It's called Index. It will make you strong. Well I am not a good example though! You dont have to drive as far. The alternatives are Tieton and Vantage and ice climbing more!

If everone that tred it got in a line and whizzed down the Deeping Wall to make it fatter would it be better then

Ok now a serious Speculation only I would be ready to aid.I would be prepped for some ice\verglass too.What line? Near the White Slabs area may have something. Depending on what you are looking for.Let us know your findings.

quote: Originally posted by EV: Does anyone have any info on the conditions of Snow Creek Wall. TIA I cannot avoid this Spray! What the heck do you think it looks like? Plastered and bring your ice gear and be prepared for aid and dry tooling.

Nope dont know details but it is presumably true that they claim this. I dont know maybe they are making a lame excuse to ban climbers [ 01-22-2002: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

quote: Originally posted by erik: i say we go to the alki tavern, if not then i will stay home and clean my house.. sorry bronco too much work to make it monroe to drink maybe this weekend after practicing the same 5.10 crack over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is that a hundred yet?? nope.and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over erik and over and over I'll be sure to bring my ropegun everywhere so I can claim to have done a climb [ 01-22-2002: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

Gibraltar Wall kicks BTW

quote: Originally posted by glacier: I like 'Testicular Fortitude' at Peshastin - creeping up polished pebbles past a tri-cam in an arching sandstone flake - Last time I did it a few years back, my partner awoke a very distraught bat in the flake as he was seconding it - fortunately the bat had had the good manners to stay asleep as I was leading past. I have seen dead bat carcasses there. It is actually called Testicle Fortitude

Follow Mikeadam's werds. I have seen therefore I believe. I just gave up on bouldering myself. Too far to drive for a short session from my current location..

This is Caveman. I agree with RURP. Caveman has spoken.

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Nice...you should rigght up a more detailed trip report. I'm sure you got a couple of good stories after hangin with Fred... Honeyman is in great....if you are a kayaker who is looking to do the worlds longest waterfall drop. The whole thing fell down two weeks ago. I got to meet Drul dis weekend ya know, it was pretty damn cool riiiight, that guy can spray for hours eeehhheee. Report: Drive to Eburg with Fred. Have dinner with Charlie and Fred. Head to Idaho lots of snow on the road.. Sleep in some nice person's home that Fred knows. (He seems to know everyone) I see piece of "Black Book" inluding photos and proposed route (secret) that night. Drive up and meet Crack, Danimal and Jordan at Gibraltar Wall. Nice wall lots of ice.. There I meet fellow ccer WadeMeyer We climb there that afternoon and the next day. Fred follows up to easy 4 and tries to lead 3. He is very ambitious and friendly.. Drive to Golden and sleep at another person's home. Climb Pretty Nuts. Drive home. Stories. None just go climb with him yourself. He is a humble, quiet, ambitious, and friendly person. Very likable and just like a lot of other people out there in a personal sense. You just have to scream to communicate

quote: Originally posted by daler: Just a quick response to the whole Deeping wall issue. First of all leading the deeping wall in this years conditions is not being a "crazy mother Fucker" I led it twice this year and felt totally in control. Grade 6 ice is often much harder and run out than the deeping wall. Although in a area like marble canyon where there are massive amounts of people tring to climb, toproping should be expected, but leaders always have the right of way!! It does bum me out to find a climb like the deeping wall all picked out because it does take away from the challenge on lead, but again I'll just head somewhere else to find virgin hard ice.I agree with the comments that excessive toproping just work against you. But no one should ever step onto the sharpend on ice and not be anything but totally in control. To do otherwise is just stupid. If you want to improve get a mentor or hire a guide and get some honest learning done, toproping grade 5 ice a hundred times ice doesn't teach you much, except that its steep and pumpy. dale remsberg Yes nice outlook. However some points - it's an icicle. Who cares if someone thinks you are "crazy mother fucker"? It's not like tring ice is changing the world or something. Maybe getting pumpy and on steep ice is all I want to know about tring hard stuff and therefore gives me other personal gratification. Maybe I just want a workout... Maybe it sux to be picked out but it's like Exit 38 of ice I think we already proved that leaders have right of way...

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Yah dat is true ya know, but it twas the first tyme I had seen topropes on a multi pitch route eeheee. It was totaly weird riiiight. The guys TRing up there were from UW and were actually pretty cool. They even let us jump on some ropes. It was just kind of a let down to pull the bulge on the first pitch and see some one standing there waiting to throw a TR down on it. Got to see the infamous J. Nelson strut his stuff on ICY BC. No helmet...even with three parties above him....ballsy dude. [ 01-22-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ] Jim's Bad ass too. Good for him. He's a cool guy too.

You guys are whining about nonsense. Everyone has and will TR. IT's a damn sport and there is no reason to break your neck if you are not ready to lead. Just use common sense. If you go to IC BC then expect tring. What else would you expect. Go somewhere else and you will see less people

quote: Originally posted by Dru: What I want to know is, who is the rope gun in that pairing??? Fred is bad ass. He followed one pitch of easier WI4 at Gibraltar Wall and also a lot of Grade 3 ice. He even tried to lead grade 3. We had fun who cares who was ropegun. Dru you've been listening to Erik too much. Just cuz he can follow Wallstein around I guess he likes to beat his chest. Not that nobody does it though He's a good climber either way. I guess I magic my way up climbs according to you huh? Well we'll see. All I can say is that just cuz someone climbs a crack rated 5.10 for the umpteenth time and then finally leads it dont mean squat to me. Maybe I magiced all those leads on Mt Stuart, Toketie Wall, Snow Creek Wall, and Prusik Peak etc. Either way it is all about fun. Fred is all about pulling his own share of work. I got a ton of respect for that man. BTW Dru he wants to do Honeyman Still. How did it look or should I even ask. Pretty Nuts was a cool climb Will lurk for most of the day. [ 01-22-2002: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ]

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Hey Cavey take some throat drops along cause shouting at the top of your lungs to be understood takes its toll on the vocal chords. Nice tip. I'll get some.

[major spray]I'll ask F.B. why he doesn't post here today after I pick him up. Dont expect any report until Tuesday.[/major spray] My immediate guess is he does not want to be mobbed with senseless or meaningless gibbersish.

I am great.. We all are great. Except Dan Larson he sux! Kiss it Trask

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