Lambone

looks more like a highball boulder problem to me...what's up with the rope? Would this guy climb the Peabody boulders toting a rope and slinging horns....weak.

yank don't give nothin back

dude...blood = bad technique

yeah, the Ranger counted about 80 people on Sat night at Lake Helen, I lost count at around 30 tents... He also said there are ussually twice as many on the weekend. I think most people are just to lazy to hike over to Hidden Valley, or wouldn't be able to find it....did you guys see those choppers looking for laost hikers in the woods?....sheesh. Seems like Avy Gully has alot more objective hazard then the WF with all of the choss rock right above the route...tons of big boulders all over the snow field. Hey Snodger, do you live in Southern Oregon?, I'm looking for partners...

Mt Shasta, Ca Fri Jun 11 Sunny 69°/44° 0 % Sat Jun 12 Mostly Sunny 73°/47° 0 % Sun Jun 13 Sunny 75°/48° 0 % Mon Jun 14 Sunny 81°/51° 0 % Tue Jun 15 Sunny 86°/55° 0 % Hmmm...Castle Crags or the west Face????

I was this close to banning all you punkasses and unbanning all of ademson, caveman, and dwayners old avatars...but I had to show mercy.

yup...but they are planning to ban you next. no...actualy it was for agreeing with pope in one post

naw I gave up all my privilages...none of that half ass shit like erik tried. I'm done listening to their rants...and they were sick of listening to mine, it's not a whole lot different then the spray forum in there, only they are spraying about you MisterE nice play on words

yeah well I've never seen you before fucktwat, you gotta give me a little more to work with...

who the hell are you newbie...shit...you were still in diapers when I used to bother people.

no way, man...I need to hold onto that stuff for blackmailing purposes... it's a hornets nest in there though...sheesh. mostly they just talk about you.

Hey cracked, you know where this goes right? Shove it there so we don't have to listen to yo talk anymore...mmmkay

i-am-bone dude...sheesh... WTF is your Avatar supposed to be anyway? Some kinda Valantines Day dildo?

Notice my name is no-longer brown?! I have dropped the chains that bound me to moderatordom...now I can spray freely amongst all you fuckers... So give it your best shot...

use 1/4" rivets like everyone says, or don't do it at all. that is your only safe bet.

ya know guys, yer really arguing about appels and oranges here... Bolts increase traffic, and quality increases traffic. Anyone whos been climbing for a while has seen plenty increased traffic on trad climbs and on sport climbs. increased traffic everywhere, there are a multitude of factors that increase traffic, word of mouth, giudbooks, new trails, access roads, closures in other areas, newer/safer bolts or advancement in trad protection... so jeeze...what's the point in arguing over that?

I didn't read through all the sugestions here, but you might want to try talking to a geologist...they cut alot of rocks in half. "glen" on this site would be a good person to email.

I think I have climbed Godzilla more times then any route in Washington. I guess the reason was that Index was my favorite place to climb, the apporach is short, and it is just difficult enough that it provides a good chalange and pump, but never scary and allways options for good pro. My kinda route, cool climb.

Mt Shasta...at least that's where I'm going. our chances are questionable

I don't understand, are you condoning that it be ignored? Why even have Wilderness are as in the first place then? Why not just have all National Deforistation Service and BLM designation, that way the govt and private companies could go in and pilage it as well...from you post it sounds like you think they might as well...

WOW, 2nd time using crampons eh? sheesh...gald you made it man. Seriously, what are beginners thinking when they attempt this route? All that ice climbg sounds pretty damn fun to me, sounds like perfect conditions... Sucks about that accident though...bad stuff.

ummmm...you haven't been paying attention to whats been going on around here in the past week or so have you? you may wnat to browse through the Access forum, or at least read this thread from the begining.

I don't think bolts are banned in wilderness areas, although they tried with the "Fixed Anchor Ban," Just power drills.

I applaud the formation of this "WCC" unfortunately I assume out-of-State'rs cannot be included other than offer verbal or financial support...? One question/suggestion to add to your "Looking ahead" list, Do you anticipate posting some sort of offical stance on issues involving climbing in the state of Washington? In order to win my full support and I assume others as well, I would need to know what you stand for as a group.