Bronco

heres a link to some extra picks for less than $20. Don't know about the hammers/adzes but let me know if you find some. http://rei-outlet.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=2538755&prmenbr=8000

check out the Grivel Air Tech RACING axe. Only 12 oz. but 120 bones Ouch! In general, the tip of the pick should reach to just above your ankle when hanging straight down from your hand. I've climbed with several different lenghts of shafts and it's not that critical, I prefer one a little too short over one thats a little too long.

Thanks for the advice Phil. I figured on getting there early sunday morning right at first light to take advantage of the cold and get out of there by noon. but, I agree its not the place to be in high avy conditions.

Just got off the phone with the Verlot Ranger station and they confirmed the above post. Gate closed at Deer Creek, aproximatly 2 miles from Big 4 Trail Head. Bring your mtn bike.

farmer carry - pick up a heavy barbell (no, not a farmer) palms facing in, and walk as far as possible before setting it down. I like to do this when working in my swamp and pickup big rocks or slimy old logs and stagger around through the knee deep mud. That will kick your ass.

for what its worth Wallstien, I have had a pair of Scarpa Matterhorns which are real similar to the Cerro Torre. I have worn them a bunch and am extreemly happy with them. They take crampons well, edge like a mutha, (the rubber is super sticky), not that great for skiing though, (yes I tried and probably will again ). Pretty comfy except on flat, hard trails, (like out of Paradise).

I hear them on a regular basis in my 'hood out between Monroe and Sultan. I think its pretty cool, even when they wake me up at 3am

if these are similar to the alpine trekers, I can make you a good deal on some that have only been used once.

JayB: Real men forgo the jacket and just wear the requisite red and black flannel shirt, (cotton).

quote: Originally posted by dizzyme456: You people are absolutely ridiculous..... nah.

what a bunch of nerds!!

Thanks for your help guys. I wonder if any crampons out there are approved for running on concrete stairs. Maybe some of the crampons designed with the mixed climbing in mind would be ok for this type of an activity. How do climbers in Europe train for these routes? They should have it rated like the Teleferique Du Beout goes at TC (teleconcrete) IV or somthing....

Here's a question for the knowitall out there - Are all beacons compatible???

While driving the Index - Galena Rd about 1 mile west of Garland Mineral springs there is a long, 2 tiered waterfall (maybe 400') that drains into the N. Fork of the Skykomish River on the South side of the river. It faces the north and the bottom elevation is somewhere around 1500'. I know this sucker must have frozen up at some point in time and wanted to fish for some beta particularily on the best approach other than swiming the Skykomish

While cleaning my garage last weekend, I came across a stack of literature, disclosures and warnings that came with climbing gear I obtained over the last year or so. I always put the paperwork in the pile to be looked at “later” (when the weather gets like it is). Anyway, I noticed the bottom line of the paper for my wife’s Grivel G-10 crampons says “ Crampons can be damaged by walking on rocks or running on the teleferique’s concrete stairs”. I am 100% serious people!! We probably would not have selected these crampons knowing this. My questions to you are – What the hell is a teleferique? Is this justification for returning the Crampons? If you can’t run on the concrete stairs in the teleferique, why bother?

Big L for LOSER!

I get it - rightous dudes are on a "power trip". Sorry I'm a little slow today (like I'm not every other day). Spray Away! [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Bronco ]

you boys bored today?

Hey benman: You better be bringing something more than that little peashooter. You will be no match for my: http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/pages/fabarm/semiframeset.html Especially if I wear my snot patch gloves-Bring it on! [ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Bronco ]

why don't you just put some new hangers up?

yes, I forgot to mention, if you are a really good skier, you dont have to worry about avalanches. Just ask Alex Lowe

OK Lammy-pajami, I'll bite It means I would expect most climbers to know that despite what the avalache forecast is it may or may not apply to a particular area (where you are climbing) within the forecast zone covering everything from the crest of the Cascade Range to the Pacific Ocean. Therefore, please use your melon and assess conditions yourself (snow pit, Rutschblock, weather, terrain, etc...) I can hardly think of a worse way to die than being smothered to death with only a few inches of snow between your face and life. Anything you would like to add?? (I heard you have never been on a glacier)

Darren, how about you enlighten us as to where you are finding the $99 deal.

FYI: I'm sure most of you know this, but, even though you may read the avvy forecast, you still should evaluate snow conditions on your specific route the day you climb/ski/innertube.