jules

Haven't had the need to try it with my boots, my Lowa Civettas are awesome, but I always wore plain old sandwich baggies (yes, I have small feet)right against my bare feet when lacrosse season practice started (sox over the baggies). We usually started in December, and played in everything but lightning, and my feet were kept nice & toasty running through freezing water/mud puddles. I read somewhere that to be effective VBL s/b right against the skin, and baggies definitely don't breathe, so my feet did get sweaty. Just took off the bags, dried my feet, and turned the bags inside out for the 2nd half. (Make sure you're not tying your boots too tight and strapping your crampons too tight as that will help cut off circulation and freeze them toesies, too. Been there, done that.)

Hiked through Grand Park in the northern part of MRNP a few weeks ago, it was spectacular then, probably even better now. PM me if you want more details. jules

Had my unused isobutane canisters confiscated from my pack on the way to Calif a few years ago.

Hmmm... so, TG, you're saying the liability would rest on the climbers who were inexperienced (even if they were the ones who died). I guess I see your point, but I agree with Iain about being responsible and realizing that less experienced climbers are part of the risk. Definitely agree with you about not wanting to see the setting of a precedent like that. I really don't see how they could assign blame based on experience level: the law: "we are holding you responsible for the deaths of those other climbers because you are inexperienced and you know it. What made you think you could climb that route/mtn/conditions given that you are so inexperienced?" inexperienced climbers: "we thought it would be OK/how else are we going to gain experience?/lots of other people do it, some of 'em in running shoes and Levi's."

WTF? What kind of criminal charges would they have been able to bring? I don't get it..... web page

I'll miss you guys tonight, too, have fun!

For goodness sakes, people, I go on vacation and look how bent out of shape ya'll are about a return at my store. Tom, has your situation been resolved? You will get that tent returned or replaced, I promise. PM me, David Parker is right: I will drop some names or offer other assistance. You did not get appropriate results. You are also right to assume that the webmasters and copywriters for rei.com are not necessarily end-users (at least, that's the thought I gleaned from your post). So I am not surprised, although I am chagrined, to learn of the category to which those tents are assigned. Thanks, I think I can easily remedy that (damn, another preposition-ending sentence...). And to everyone, because I respect each & every one of you, or at least you probably crack me up on a regular basis: caveat emptor. Do not assume that what is printed in the media or on a stupid website or in religious documents (unless they have to do with banning the devil from your Florida hometown ) is the absolute truth.

I don't take my dog to the crags, don't plan to. He's only 10 months old, and my lifestyle changed when I got him. I don't get out there as much, and that's the choice I made.

Drink of choice: Chianti from Fattoria Luciagno, somewhere in Italy. If I can't find that, any Oregon Pinot Noir. If I can't find that, Mirror Pond. [ 08-01-2002, 10:25 PM: Message edited by: jules ]

quote: Originally posted by Dave Schuldt: Jules- I saw your ad in The Stranger, I won't say what section. ssshhhh.....

us mountaineers we have no fears we do not care for riches we knock our cocks against the rocks us hearty sons-a-bitches* (* trask excluded in the mtneer' class)[/QB] I... can't... breathe... must... stop... laughing....

Hooray for your successful summit attempt of Rainier! I am filled with awe every time I'm on that mtn, call me a gumby, I don't give a hoot. It is magnificent, I understand how you feel. Don't stop now. Maybe Shasta next?

quote: Originally posted by sk: who's next jules Hmmm... this is fun, sk...... how about Dave Schuldt?! No, wait, you haven't met him in person yet. We may have to do this offline first, consult, then post online. Oh, yeah, this could get really fun!

trask: 40ish, athletic, huggable cuddler seeks friendship first with beautiful, free-spirited adventurer. Open-mindedness a plus.

C'mon, sk, let's write trask's!

So happy to hear you are all back in one piece. Thanks for sharing your story. jules

alli, you made me laugh out loud! Nice job!

quote: Originally posted by sk: my avatar picture is a photo of one of my tatoos. My husband drew the picture for me for my 25th birthday. To me, it represents my "higher" spiritual self or gaurdian "angel" if you will sk, that is the coolest tattoo I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing. jules [ 07-29-2002, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: jules ]

quote: Originally posted by David Parker: Because I liked frosted flakes as a kid and I embrace all the qualities of a large, wild cat! David Parker, I needed that! Oh, damn, another sentence ended with a preposition.

quote: Originally posted by sayjay: because some day i'm gonna see this view in person... SWEET! Maybe you can get your astronaut-pilot's license, and take me too!!!!

I appreciate the reminder, sisu. If one woman OR man reads this and avoids danger at some point in the future, you performed a valuable service. I perceive very few men understand what it is like to feel vulnerable so frequently as the women with whom I have had this discussion.

I consider this a discussion instead of spray: why did you choose the avatar you now have? Would you choose something else and why? I chose my dog because my relationship with him has refined my relationship with climbing far more than I expected.

Great photos, Carolyn! What a neat trip. Makes me wish I was there. Thanks for sharing. Hope we get to meet next time. jules

quote: Originally posted by RichTurley: Permits for walkups are not all taken, they leave 40% free on a first come basis 24 hours before. Rich But if you get there on Wednesday and say you're going up right away, and you're going to be there all weekend, you will get a permit that goes thru the weekend. And well, that means no spots at camp 24 hours before Saturday morning. That is exactly what happened to me 2 years ago. I think the 1st ranger I spoke to actually laughed in the phone when I called and said I was on my way down, how many spots are open at Schurman &/or Emmons Flats. "They've been full for the weekend since last night!" (I was calling on a Thursday).

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: We are going to the Glacier Wilderness instead. Right on, have a great time!!