Dru

ya but salmon dont spawn on beaches, oolichans do.

tidal = not riparian except of course for river mouths

Yeah but if you live next to a riparian area you can't cut down the trees along it, or fuck with the river bank even if its on your property. Property rights are not absolute. and ya can't usually bust the pimpin dope rhymes out your bedroom speakers at max volume cause of noise bylaws.

everyone compelled to voice opinion here please scan your B.Sc. in physics and post it to this thread

spoken like a true lefty... i have run into plenty of selfish liberals out there. mostly "i got mine" union members.

stone

Environmentalism is at some level conservative in that it is opposed to change. But political conservatism is opposed to social and economic change, and environmental conservatism is opposed to environmental change. Since its the current economic and political system which is causing much of the environmental change, the two philosophies conflict. Of course, current conservatism is Industrial era liberalism (individual liberty and rights, pro-industry, increase of wealth) and current liberalism is Industrial era radicalism... and you could argue that curreent environmentalism is as influenced by Industrial era conservatism as it is by radicalism.

Sisu its been a problem in the North for a long time. Current issue is not Sr-90 but dioxins, furans, PCBs. They are fucked no matter which diet they choose. Hear disease, obesity, and diabetes, or endocrine disruption, sterility and cancer. sort of like the Pacific Islanders whose islands are being covered by rising sea levels. What are they supposed to do, pack it in and move to East LA? Of course, the Makah whaling hunt was shut down because the EPA tested and found that the whale meat qualified as toxic waste and could not be eaten.

its up to 11 men and 10 women as of 11:00 AM. and by special request we will schedule a shoot for the Eugene Columns. all proceeds from calendar will go to Jon & Tim to help defray web hosting costs.

A ghetto blaster pumping out some Insane Clown Posse or similar at full volume is a good way to drive other people away from the route you plan on doing. That or stripping naked and chanting.

hahaha essentially. don't bolt the rapids!

reported today on 8a.nu: www.8a.nu is it real or an april fools joke?

Ok i dont feel like sending out 17 PM's so I will post here Thanks for the outwelling of support. There is clearly a lot of interest in such a project. To date I have 8 men and 9 women volunteers. The shoot dates are TBA but will probably be on warm days in late May. Pro climbing photographer "Little Richard" Wheater has agreed to help out with the photography (see I knew going to high school with him would pay off sooner or later) So far (to satisfy various volunteers) we have Kakodemon Boulders, Icicle Canyon, Tumwater and Smith planned as shooting venues. We'll add more if we get volunteers from near other locations. Would still like to have at least one person posed on UW Rock for verisimilitude. thanks to all the closeted nudists coming out for this shoot!

You'd be hard pressed to find a car that's as big of a danger to other drivers as a suxpidition, slugburban, nadgrator, etc. Yeah - size matters in this respect, but the main thing that makes a vehicle dangerous is the person behind the wheel, not the size. Beyond a certain point, additional regs are in order, though. Like if you drive a semi for instance. there's a proven correlation between safety features and poor driving. the best way to make people drive safe is to make it obvious they are gonna die if they crash. no air bags. no seat belts. put a big sharp spike in the middle of the wheel with the point pointing right at the driver's heartt. they'll drive safe then.

they should just make land mines which detonate over a certain weight (like twice the weight of a Subaru) and leave them in the highway fast-lane.

eddy wanking.

so take a gun already.

Dru's Dinner Surprise 1 hungry climber 2 friends Bake hungry climber on 1/2 oz. for two hours. Walk to friends' house at dinner time. SURPRISE!!! What's fer dinner?

he had put beer in!

i did it when it was 5.7 [chestbeater icon here] yas we were MEN in those days... actually i think i made Fern lead it cause it was scary and exposed like

LAMB BONE!

google results i say we blame these guys. Pangaea Adventures, you have a lot to answer for.

bah!

Fern's question is a good one Super Slab or what? Cinnamon Slab? Are any of these routes worth brawling over? Or by beginners area do we mean Morning Glory? Those cheater sticks make good quarterstaves. It's be funny to see some Little John twirling going on as the gumbies and send hogs square off like the Sharks and Jets in West Side Story. Mini haulbags are thrown. Redpoint lasers are whipped out in an attempt to blind but renfdered useless in a cloud of chalk dust. Someone is tacoed with a bouldering mat and thrown in the river. A lycra wearing would be poseur is flogged with a chain of quickdraws. When the dust clears the send hogs are supreme. The gumbies have taken a beating. For the rest of the day, crushed like the Revolutionary Guard, they are forced by imperialist lackets to be belay slaves. But none of them know how to use a Gri Gri. That's not taught in Basic Mountaineering course. Once one short-over-fleece wearing slave has dropped a Prana halter top crank queen from the 4th bolt on Chain the others get the picture. This time there is no quarter. A troupe of passing boulderers swarm up onto the boulder in Aggro Gully and open a third front by throwing rocks and chalkbags into the melee. No one wins. As the sun sets vultures flap down from Smith Summits to feast on the piled corpses. Shit, its like Wild Kingdom!

Dude even if there's gear or a rope at the base, if there isnt an OWNER there there is no route line up. Its your responsibility to be ready to climb when the climb is free. If you're off putting on lip gloss or taking a TR burn on a nearby route or whatever you are NOT ready to climb even if you have the whole trunk of your SUV piled at the base.