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Shouldn't this thread be moved to the NEW J_B IS SO SUCK FORUM

Prove it

with out without fur

remember, when the monetary system collapses, what you are worth will be what you have to barter, trade, or know how to make or do.

CRASH PADS!

wife = doesnt have to show off for da ladies.

I am safe within my temporary autonomous zone. I have almost 200 Grand from various gambling and illict enterprises salted away where no government or bank will ever notice it. And I ... drive down that corporate profit margin When it is unprofitable to be a corporation only cooperatives will survive.

I assume this was sarcasm? If not, you need to learn to look before you step. i like how his partner is getting ready to bean him with a rock.

I AM BRINGING A PASTEL COLORED GORETEX ONE PIECE SUIT SO IT BETTER RAIN

like 15 or so miles one way pffff! so like 2 hours for me and my homey Dan - right!!!

i thought i read somewhere it was "5.8+"

what if you thru-hike from the 8 mile creek/mtneers creek road? past stuart instead of driving around? day trip or no?

I am not afraid to admit when I was wrong. I conflated two separate ascents. A Spaniard climbed a 14b shoeless. A 54 year old Italian climbed a 14a chalkless. OK?

although both examples carry fatal risks - which is why i chose them - the risk of dying from soloing is by and large a calculated risk. you know your own abilities - you know the route - you know your chances. as far as i can tell you can't calculate a risk the same way when dealing with wild animals.

there is an 80's station playing at work - i am immune to your attempts cause men at work are rawking out with "I come from a land down under" and next up will be "stop making sense"

is ingalls pk still closed due to fire? i hear it is that good red orangerock (olivine/peridotite) like twin sisters and old settler

"I just got a new gig playing my didgeridoo at the yoga classes my soulmate teaches! It's very spiritual!"

PLEASE do not compare me to cracked! but anyways - the only thing i see different between this accident, and, say, derek hersey falling off the steck salathe, is that hersey knew and accepted the risk. this guy, just based on the news story which is all i know of him, seems to have not understood the risk, but believed some sort of self-invented theory about bear psychology. unlike the researcher who spent hundreds of days desensitizing one bear to his presence he was dropped off on island with many bears and little time to get them accustomed to him. maybe he was a cool guy and all but it also sounds like his theories were directly responsible for not only his own death, but that of his gf. i don't think that's so cool. sorry if you knew this guy though. as i say all i know of him is what was in the news story. if you can provide any contrasting details please do so.

oh yeah hey peter pungent there is only one E in nonsense!!!!!

My point is simply that in the future tr'ing and tr practice will be seen in the same light as the use of fixed ropes were on the fa of the Dihedral Wall. It is not a question of runouts but of style. I am not making a case against runouts. I simply am asserting that the tr and rehearsal methods of the Hubers will be considered to be in poor style in a few years and the ground up ethic will be the cutting edge. Time will tell. NO BOLTS NO BOLTS NO BOLTS these two styles, rehearsed and onsighted, have co existed for a long time. in britain some of the e5's, most e6's and almost all e7's were put up headpoint style. now the e5-e7 routes are onsighted and people are headpointing e8, e9 and e10. so its not that the style will whither away but when people are onsighting stuff like el corazon and salathe, the worked headpoint style will be being used on trad routes with multiple 5.14 pitches.

KILL CLIPPY!!!!

It says at the bottom of the NEWS STORY that he got into researching bears to help himself recover from drug dependency.... The guy had a wacky theory. He had some successes, got cocky and got killed. Along with his girlfriend. OOPS!!! Ehmmic maybe you could explain how you think this case is any different than the one reported last week where a self proclaimed "yoga expert" who said yoga would keep him safe from sharks, was standing in water chummed with blood and fish guts, and his leg was bitten off by a shark? "playin with fire dontcha know that you're gonna get burned?"

WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS THREAD BEFORE???? insert deja-vu graemlin!

Huber, Houlding, etc. are using the aid gear that exists on the line. If there is a beak placement, or a fixed pin, then that is his pro. Leo Houlding added a hood ornament for an aid move once It has nothing to do with using the exact same gear as was used on the original ascent. If that was the case no one would use cams on the Salathe. Your spurious arguments are illogical and invalid as always! But keep them coming cause it is fun As to "the goal is to make a runout route" - the goal is not to retrobolt while freeing. Any tactics used in support of this goal are to be supported. If a hard crack protects well - by your argument, if he wanted to make a runout he'd fill it in with cement like the French do.

trees are aid