Dru

In addition to the north face route and diagonal bail variation the north arete at right has been climbed. 12 pitches 5.8.

Maybe its a Bob Shonerd route not a Pete Doorish route

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Do you have "faith"? Yes or No? (can't start a poll in replying any more) I don't have any religious faith. I don't want any. If other people have it more power to em. As long as they dont try to make me believe like them. off topic. When I was at University I'd be sitting out on the sunny patio in front of the Student Union trying to read some book and these missionary type "Hey do you want to come to a really fun Bible study" guys would always siut down and hassle me. I came up with a little test - lay a quick open handed bitch slap on their face and see how many would turn the other cheek as their religion suggests. Purely experimental...results indicated only one ever actually turned the othercheek the others got mad and/or upset and/or struck back

It'd only take you about 2 more hours each way if you had to walk rather than drive the road, anyways. Get up earlier?

I have walked into outdoor grow ops several times

I have run across squatters in the woods near Hope several times. One guy was camped on a fresh landslide deposit at the base of the Mousetrap. He told me the unvegetated boulders "must have been there for centuries" There is a welfare office in Hope, so they can walk into town and get their check

Q? "Here's an exploding , 007. Deadly thing."

hey distel there's excellent bouldering in the twin sisters range in the background there...

don't know about road repair but you can also access the divide from van horlick and twin one/two creek roads from N or Rogers?gowan creeks to S (gated)

religious link

Not us

maybe the lab is just a meth

wow that's "blank" looking

ok whos got a w face photo though?

paste in as an image using the UBBcode it (Code) doesnt work in this post cause i used .jpeg rather than .jpg by the way

werent you up at the toolshed on sunday

You mean like cold fusion and ear candling?

for reals

If this is how you see it then how about, Evolution is society's coping mechanism for the harsh reality that they're going to hell. They provide a half-baked hypothesis that is supposed to comfort them so they can feel guilt free while sinning. Huh? How so? Christianity says that if you're good then you'll go to Heaven when you die, and you'll keep living up there. Thus it's comforting when your son dies, because you know he'll keep living in heaven and you'll see him there. Also, when life sucks, you can console yourself that you'll go to heaven soon and life is perfect here. That's how it's comforting. But how does the theory of evolution comfort us and keep us from feeling guilty? Christianity isn't peaches and roses. It also provides rigid guidlines that you have to follow in order to obtain heaven. It's a lot harder to live these guidlines than it is to deny they exist through the belief of Evolution. As a Christian you also know and belive in a hell. Simply having a good son doesn't mean you'll see him in heaven. He too has to give his life to the lord. Evolution says we are free to do whatever we want. There is no afterlife simply science. If the virtue of Christianity is that it is hjarder to believe and follow the faith than humanism, scientism, whatever - then logically, worshipping some sort of giant three-nippled pig, and having to walk around with a ten ton anvil strapped to your head, and not saying the word "The" on weekdays - is even a more difficult faith to follow. I expect you will convert immediately.

thats a lot of people for a "solo"

Snowpatch?

Chouinard/Patagonia Who made the first solo ascent of Mt Logan (the Yukon one)?

DB Cooper