Dru

Jon and Tim kick Thanks for letting us spray on your site guys.

it was the grinch.

The one Rodchester mentions is La Esfinge (The Sphinx). Where Leo Houlding accused Sean Isaac of being an "Aid Climbing Rapist" for drilling a rivet ladder on a FA.

La Esfinge and not much else developed yet to my knowledge. Try checking back issues of AAJ and High Mountain Sports.

no, but 1) wash your bag2) dry it out with a tennis ball in the dryer to keep the down from clumping3) if all else fails take your bag to REI and warranty it for having lost its loft

Will, did you consider falling off to graphically show them the dangers of soloing?????

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=26&t=000018

quote: Originally posted by Copperhead: I pick up the mountaineers monthly rag at their clubhouse, and use it to determine where their hoardes are going to be in the backcountry at any given time.and plant a few land mines the day beforehand? or you could show up in a USFS shirt (I got one for $5 at Value Village) and collect a special "large group permit fee" from them.

save the headless turdle.

"we built cairns at every belay" - what, like you took a dump or what? follow the feces fossils?

congrats chucK is the first one to mention weed which will ensure that this thread never dies

popular topic just like Muir on Saturday. maybe if we get some discussion of weed in it it will go on for 20 pages too!

maybe she just wanted to pick up her trash like a good girl, instead of littering the wilderness?

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: There is so much good climbing in Utah. Walls, boulders, sporties, granite, ice. Send photos! In fact if it wasn't for the lack of beer and the presence of weird religious people Utah might be considered liveable.

where was your best ever trundle? Doug Wilm and I pushed some house sized boulders down the 2000' north face of Scuzzy Mountain once and started a rock avalanche. That was supremely fulfilling. Smoke and dust and that gunpowder smell. Also got some good velocity chucking volcanic bombs down a huge dirt slope on Brohm Ridge into the headwaters of the Cheekeye River. Roll roll roll bounce smack boom!

i'm actually posting something totally serious! you know, I started climbing in 1990 with the UBC climbing and outdoors club. Over the years I have actually been in many large hordes of club climbers. i climbed needle peak with 25 people. i set up TRs and spent all day showing peopole how to belay, all those club type things. and I did have a good time doing it. but I must confess that never once did i feel that i owned the outdoors. when i had a large group of beginners top roping i had them either at some dedicated TR crag like Burgers and Fries, or at some godforsaken obscure hole like "Oh My Dog". never did i have a TR hanging down a cliff with no one climbing on it, and never did i refuse anyone who was not in my party from giving a route we had set up on a go if they didnt mind waiting until the current climber was finished. in fact the VOC was and is well known for camping out in shitty condtions up at cerise creek or wherever to ensure that anyone who came up planning to sleep in the hut would not find it full of club members. and when i did alpine trips with larger groups, usually we did not even encounter another party, and on the rare occasion we did we did not impede them in any way. and i never led any groups larger than about 4 on any technical routes - and we soloed on 4th class routes instead of fixing lines and seiging. so there! so if we could do it why can't the mountaineers? it sounds like they own the cascades, i wonder how they managed to buy them, and from who?

I found these useful. www.gravsports.com http://www.alpineclubofcanada.ca/calgary/news/currentconditions.html www.avalanche.ca for avvy conditions. Normally Cyril Shokoples' Rescue Dynamics site has good conditions reports http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/resqdyn/current.htmbut for some reason it has been down since november. Some family tragedy or something I heard. May start updating later on though. The last 3 are also useful if you plan on some backcountry skiing too. [ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Dru ]

actually i just checked the lillowet weathere forecast. today high +3 low +1. tomorrow high +4 low -1. sunday high +6 low +2. rain 60% tonight, tomorrow, 40% sunday. hope bone took the aqualung. either that or is spending all his timne up the duffy where it is reportedly colder and drier according to the avvy forecast at www.avalanche.ca

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: The answer is:Dan Larson You mean a "Rainier Mountaineer"

...supposedly until the 6th. but the temp in lillooet today is supposed to max out at +7 C so maybe the dood is swimming in Pavilion Lake instead?

burp

The reason I asked the original question (do Spokane Mountaineers = seattle Montaineers AKA THE MOUNTAINEERS) is because one of the Spokane group told me they were totally different. But in terms of behaviour, they seem to perform exactly the same (ie swarm popular areas with huge hordes.) SO i wondered what the difference was? And what would happen if Seattle & Spokane Mountaineer hordes both showed up to top rope the same area on the same day? would they brawl it out or merge into a horde twice the size?

i am not an experienced climber... i am a bumbly gorby. but i do my bumbling in small groups in remote areas so as not to diminish the experience for others.

Will, breaking rocks in the prison courtyard, making license plates, and picking up trash from the side of the highway on a chain gang, don't count as working for the government. so have you really qualified?

I HAVE NO AVATARS!!!!!!!! In particular I am not pope, Dwayner, LittleBunnyFooFoo, Trask, Lambone or Dan Larson.