Retrosaurus

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: C'mon Mitch post the link! Cpt., The link is my living room window. I live at 4000' about 25 miles NE of the Enchantments. I can see Witches Tower among many other peaks. -Mitch

quote: Originally posted by lizard brain: 'bone- Don't criticize things you don't know about! You're sooooo insensitive! Now give sexy a nice hug. Sounds to me like 'bone has intimate (if not carnal) knowledge.

The enchantments are covered in fresh snow this morning. I can look into them from my computer. Beauty!

quote: Originally posted by lambone: So is that why you sold all your climbing gear last week Caveman? I figured that your assets were frozen when they discovered your links to the Taliban.

... and how did she look from on top?

1. Amphetamines and Reptiles 2. Gorilla my Dreams 3. 5.8 arete, #3, Little Bridge Creek Rock 4. Pudding Time 5. Shrinking Ball Disease 6. Spinning Mars 7. Pony Keg 8. ? Medicine Man and Dance of the Shaman used to go to the top of the towers and were artificially shortened by the addition of TR anchors. Dance of the Shaman especially had some interesting,cruxy moves to the top of the tower. [This message has been edited by Retrosaurus (edited 10-08-2001).]

No BUTT CANDY for me. Definitely do NOT want to MEAT.

quote: Originally posted by Rafael H: ... please leave the Vantage Choss alone. Why?

1. Amphetamines and Reptiles 2. Gorilla my Dreams 3. 5.8 arete, #3, Little Bridge Creek Rock 4. ?

Gee pope, you arguements are true and valid but not all people that share your point of view are politically correct.

The two-legged bleach-bottle-blonde variety menstruate. But mostly on bar stools. And it does draw sharks, especially those that desire to immigrate to the states cuz they no gotte green card.

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: But he didn't do them from the ground up. I heard he rap-cleaned and rehearsed them first. Some I did ground up and some I didn't. But what did YOU do. You don't even have an identity. Is this "sexual chocolate" a reference to fudge packin' or what?

Mystic, Lack of gear is no excuse not to trad climb. Even if you had all the gear, likely you would lack the experience to use it safely. You need to put energy in to developing a relationship with a climber with the experience that you lack; he already has the gear. I climbed for years with out a rack at all, because I have a passion for climbing. Sport climbers sport climb because they can stay in their comfort zone and don't have to put in the work to grow as a climber the skills knowlege and mental toughness that it takes to maintain an acceptable level of safety and to keep your shit together when you stray beyond it. That being said, there is room for sport climbing. There are places where it is completely appropriate, but often persuants of this "fast-food" form of the sport have not developed the experience/judgement to know where bolting is appropriate or just dont give a shit. -Mitch

Of course.

not FAT KID, You are SO fucked up. I bet you defecate behind Fat Kid's sofa. It's not your route; it's not your rock; it's not your call, you egomaniac.

quote: Originally posted by goatboy: I'm also wondering if ice ratings change from area to area as much as rock ratings do (i.e. a Vantage 5.11 vs a Leavenworth 5.11 is quite a difference!) Steve, Don't worry about the area to area rating variations. Waterfall ice by its very nature is so much more varriable that the ratings could ever be. A WI6 can form up as a WI4 and a WI4 as a WI6. Your best resource will be a knowlegeable local at the time of your visit. -Mitch

I agree with Chris. Replace the pins. Also worth considering, the route is extremely run out, but what are the consequences of a fall? Deck on a ledge? Or a looong ride? In other words, are we talking about percieved risk or actual risk? Sport climbers need not reply. We know you can't tell the difference.

quote: Originally posted by jblakley: What makes gravel that's been peed on safer to fall on than regular gravel? The mountain goat... provided you miss the horns.

oops. once was probably enuf. [This message has been edited by Retrosaurus (edited 10-02-2001).]

quote: Originally posted by Doug: Nuke gay whales for Jesus. Careful there Doug. Puget's gonna take that personal and I hear he's big enough to rip your head off. Never poke fun at a guy that's unnaturally fond of whales, no matter whose name he does it in.

quote: Originally posted by nolanr: The power of a name...I hear rumour of a pitch at Frenchman's called Menstrating Whale Snatch. Geez, what does that tell us about the climb? That you need a harpoon and foul weather gear before you attempt it? The crack is wide, loose and has lots of er um discharge.

Honestly, the only ratings that I would bother to disagree with are Tangled up in Blue,and Narlux.

Ratings are always wrong. Why would you think that the numbers that you are more familiar with are any more correct.

Too bad you didn't take Ranger Dickhead into custody and have an impromptu trial at the Rope Up. This should be easy to set up entertainment. I would have missed work for that one.

quote: Originally posted by lambone: Thats funny, I allways thought Koflachs made WI2 seem like WI5. Only on your feet.