cmonster, not sure if there is some "tone" in there or not? I am looking for specifics such as you pointed out with the weight of the BD vs the DMM. Great, appreicate the feedback. I am very familier with how to place cams. I own Met FCU's and they have worked fine, no real big complaints, however I also relize there are many other manufacturers out there and would like to hear how others have faired. Things like the thread the other day that told of how well BD handled a "re-sling" job and for free. To me, things like service make a big difference