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I floated across that once. Yikes! Floor it for sure. Ha.

That is something of a fall. Here is a close up (shaddy because it's a close up) of the pryamid. I've skied the route several times and I couldn't imagine falling. I'm glad he made it. That's one hell of a fall. Here is a pic of the pryamid from a few years ago...

Rawk on! When I go though, I want a yellow like. Can I. Can I.

Right on! Here is a pic by Benman of the route taken last year in mid may.

Ha. If that is a top of a shovel found on the way to the ice cliff, it may be JoshK's.

I wish your friend luck Stefen. "GOOD LUCK MAN!" I hope everything turns out well for him...

All the words of support I got here (and elsewhere) when Ben Manfredi passed away were a big help for not only me but also all other friends and family who read what you had to say. I'm willing to help.

First edition "snow sentitals of the northwest" (really cool book by hazard), the life of a western mountaineer (by CE Rusk, might have the book name slightly wrong), and a book on Sun Valley by oppenhiemer, signed (shows pictures of some cool skiing of skiers in the 50's or so). Lots of others, but I can't remember the names exactly. One book has a picture of edmund hillary glued in. I thought that was cool.

You need a job sky. And I mean a real job, where you have to stare out and see a nice day bloom and wither. Ha. Congrats, anyhow! Let's get on it next weekend. I really wanted to ski that with you all.

Hey, I'm sick too. You gave this to me didn't you! Well, I otta...kick your &*&*****& **^%. You should try night time, stuffy nose, decongestent, cough kind. I hear that's the good stuff.

Hey, josh, thanks for the pics and joining us on a classic climb. And, to add, I'm glad weathermen suck. The weather was awesome! Furthermore, overhanging cornices are surprisingly good motivators. I am less fat today.

Here is what it looked like a month ago. You shouldn't have much trouble if you get on it soon.

I'll be right behind you! Right on. I have no more family obligations for the next few weekends, so I'm sure it's going to rain now. Ha. More snow can't hurt anyhow. It's melting fast.

But a snowmobile is so much more fun.

Hey, we're all gapers on our first steeps. There is definately no comparisions at the ski resorts...except utah, I hear that place rocks.

Of course not. It's not an FA unless you're a white guy and write it up someplace for other white guys to read. It's hard to imagine a population in an area for upwards of 12,000 years bothering to wander around on some high ridge in the middle of nowhere, far from 7-Elevens or anything useful. Finding out what the indians did/accomplished 12 thousand years ago when we don't even know what happened 100 years ago isn't really relevant to the discussion (though interesting ). I'm sure they did many things we don't know about. Indians are aid.

The assessment of the risks inherent to kayaking are genuine. The article did a fine job (quite surprising really). When it comes to kayaking we often do make choices as the kayaker would. Looking at Klende's Big 4 story ( web page ) you see several examples that correlate with the kayaker analogy. We use our experience to justify our choices as wise decision making thus limiting risk. What we instead do is ignore the "log underneath the water" or in Klende's story "The chance that an avalanche would miss them". Risk assessment and chance? In life you balance the two and hope that fate doesn't bear down on you. Does familiarity limit risk? Not always. In kayaking familiarity can be your worst enemy. This familiarity allows you to justify not assessing your risk (not scouting the rapid or in climbing, not watching a weather report because you can find your way to muir in any storm and decide to leave your jacket behind). What does all this boil down to? Ha, I wish I knew. I guess, be consistent and don’t let familiarity justify faulty decision making.

Right on. Good TR. I hate sluff...

My scanner makes many of my photos look pink (minolta sucks ), so I'd have to say I like the second one better. It seems more realistic.

I was there in early June and the impasse was not covered. This was last year. Going around the bottom takes an extra few hours but isn't bad. There are some TR's on www.cascadeclassics.org on challenger, whatcom, fury and luna. This may give you some information on the area and many photos of what it may look like then. Good luck. It is an amazing place...

Thanks. I may just make a one day push of it rather than two. Later Saturday and sunday looks really warm. I appreciate the info...

How deep was the new snow?

Wow, that's a rad map!

...1000 feet below Dick Cheney is oil.

I agree timmy, a great thread!!! I think anyplace that comands the moment, is the place that I find most powerful. Where was I inside of my mind? Was I lost? Where was time? I stood still, I couldn’t feel and the THERE I will never know The HERE is my only road....JLH