num1mc

Read the boldened portion from above

http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/newreply/Board/3/Number/490160/what/showflat/fpart/1/q/1

http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/trip-reports/tripreport-2003083010

So those of us against this increased permit scope are false patriots,crackpot armchair lawyers, rabble rousers, tea party idiots etc etc etc? So anybody who doesn't agree with you of the USFS is in bed with Rush Limbaugh? Nice smear.

Seriously?

I think if you read up, you'll see that journalists doing "breaking" news are exempt, but serial editions, long-term projects and the like are not. Maybe journalists aren't the only ones too dumb or dishonest to do any research, maybe sprayers like you?

I have a dumb phone, so I have no idea of which you speak

http://www.modelmayhem.com/2742611

I think this accident happened about August 27th or so, so he should be home by now

http://q13fox.com/2014/09/10/body-of-experienced-climber-from-north-bend-area-found-near-mount-garfield/

You could contact the poster of the original ST topic by PM thru ST

I would think not. The poster at ST saw the rock fall from above, then rappelled thru it on descent, and drove home safely to post about it. Maybe the OP here really meant Spontaneity Arete?

Where? What's your budget and what is "basic survey work for bridge abutment placements"?

Is this route the modernized Sumner-Heath-Oas 1969 route?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2481726/Infinite-Bliss-on-Mt-Garfield-rock-fall

You were getting hit on. Quid pro quo?

It's a RCW issue. So it really can't ever "OK with the cops".

I have always been for Wilderness. But I am concerned with the imposition of bureaucrats into any recreation. I do question the need for this turf grab. http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7994404&highlight=

Because no concerned climbers spoke up and did something about it. And I don't care if WW or who ever doesn't want air lift then have a fire and consolidate the trash that can't be removed to a hidden spot and cover the stuff with rocks. But for the love of Pete, let's do something. And Fairweather you were right it wasn't you with the Patagonia catalog line. And maybe Tvash is right the research should go on but practices of the USGS need to change on a dime. How did the glacier station on the South Cascade, Wildness Watch and the USGS even get into this conversation? And why couldn't a helicopter be used to access and clean up the area? That station has been in use since the '50's, predating the modern Glacier Peak Wilderness. I think you're making some awfully big assumptions here. I doubt that permission is needed from WW. But once you ask them, you put yourself into the hole of forever needing their permission.

Actually that is not correct. The Liberty Bell area of the proposed NOCA expansion is "the watershed boundaries of Bridge Creek, and the NP to the south" Appendix 2 of the AALP. This would include everything west and south of the NW Face of Liberty Bell to the South Ridge of South Early Winter Spire.

Source for that? Where does it mention the new lodge and roads?

Source for that?

I'll take that from an expert

I saw Hope Solo at a liquor store once. I almost got between her and the door. Thankfully I didn't.