Dave A. Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Hi, John. What happened up the Icicle? Dave A. Quote
telemarker Posted April 1, 2011 Author Posted April 1, 2011 Not sure. But out was closed just beyond SC trailhead. Quote
stevetimetravlr Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Warming trend so maybe some flooding and logjams at the bridges? Quote
selkirk Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 That would do it! I was wondering if it was tied into the Avy's up on Steven's that closed 2. I guess the same system, just a different form of the water Quote
brad Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I saw it yesterday right after it happened. Right past the entrance to 8 mile CG i would say almost a quarter mile section of road is under 3 or 4 feet of debris. The one on 2 happened right near the trailhead to dildome/bear cave. I was changing my shoes to head up to bear cave and could actually hear the thing coming! sounded like thunder, for real. i jumped in my truck, tailgate and canopy still open wearing one shoe and floored it. drove maybe 300 feet, got out of my truck and not 2 seconds later WHAM!! It was like the canyon took a giant shit on the road. If i hadn't been fucking around at home and got there an hour earlier like i had planned i'm pretty sure i would have got the chop. Sadly, i have been putting in tons of work on the trail over the past week and i'm afraid to see what it looks like. i'll post as soon as i can drive there. i had slide film in my camera so photos might be awhile. Heading back up icicle right now Quote
ryanb Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Pics of the tumwater slide: Â Â Is the icicle slide mud or snow? Wonder if any of the crags or boulders (JY, King Kong, Carnival) slid down hill... Â Quote
brad Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Drove back to the slide by 8 mile and surprisingly, no one is there except a couple of people making the walk home. Looks like it might be awhile with the DOT's priority being hwy 2 right now. Which is still closed as of 15 minutes ago. More debris than the tumwater slide... and less funding. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think iv'e seen it like this after memorial day weekend! Â Â Quote
Dave A. Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Mud. I got curious and drove up there. The mud came down the drainage several hundred yards left of 8 mile buttress. I hiked up from xy cracks to about the middle of 1st tier of the buttress. I was standing on mud on a bank probably 60 feet above the raging creek. The mud had been thrown there from below. I was impressed. Large boulders and logs are deposited on the roadway, I don't figure it'll open anytime soon. Dave A. Â looks like brad got pictures up while I was typing. Edited April 1, 2011 by Dave A. Quote
telemarker Posted April 1, 2011 Author Posted April 1, 2011 Holy shit. I see the snow lakes approach to Colchuck Lake being very popular this year! Quote
brad Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Holy shit. I see the snow lakes approach to Colchuck Lake being very popular this year! Â Right?!! If it takes that long i'm going to stop paying my taxes! Quote
ryanb Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Wow! I think this is the first time i've ever felt bad for anyone lucky enough to own a cabin in the upper icicle. Â Thanks for the pics and reports. I figure, If the road is just buried and not washed out they may be able to get it open this season...work on the bypass of the upper washout from a few years ago was scheduled to restart with snow melt and finish this october, though I'm not sure if the budget and equipment could be diverted? Â Â Quote
rat Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) i bet rayfield will dozer that in less than a day when the usfs allows it. Edited April 2, 2011 by rat Quote
curtveld Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 I saw it yesterday right after it happened. Right past the entrance to 8 mile CG i would say almost a quarter mile section of road is under 3 or 4 feet of debris. The one on 2 happened right near the trailhead to dildome/bear cave. I was changing my shoes to head up to bear cave and could actually hear the thing coming! sounded like thunder, for real. i jumped in my truck, tailgate and canopy still open wearing one shoe and floored it. drove maybe 300 feet, got out of my truck and not 2 seconds later WHAM!! It was like the canyon took a giant shit on the road. Holy mole - that's quite a story. Geologists dream about seeing one of these in action - preferably from a safer distance with a better view! Quote
telemarker Posted April 2, 2011 Author Posted April 2, 2011 i bet rayfield will dozer that in less than a day when the usfs allows it. Â Interesting, do the residents have to split the cost to have the mud cleared? And plowed for that matter? Quote
Dave A. Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 The road is a public, forest service road. I don't actually know but I would guess the residents don't pay. Just like I don't pay (directly) for the plow that pushes the snow from my street into my driveway. I'm guessing again, but I suspect the mess will be cleaned up with front end loaders and dump trucks and will take somewhat longer than just bulldozing it off the road. I suspect the longest delay will be the Forest Service coming up with the money. I hope I'm wrong. Â Quote
rat Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 chelan county maintains it to the snow creek parking lot. from there it is usfs road. if not for the landowners who became tired of snow machining their way to and from the lot, it would still be closed for the winter at snow creek. winter maintenance is done not by the usfs but by the rayfield construction company at, to my knowledge, residents' expense. as a condition, they have to plow parking at bridge creek. Â dave a. is probably correct that they will end-haul the debris. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Damn! hope they scrap that off soon. and here i was hoping for the road up the canyon to get opened sooner, but it won't be till later next year (maybe later because of this?) Quote
brad Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Rayfield showed up about an hour ago with equipment. Quote
Dave A. Posted April 9, 2011 Posted April 9, 2011 According to news release from Forest Service yesterday the barricades have been moved 1.8 mi. further up the road and the contractor is beginning work. Opening date unknown, will mostly depend on how much damage to road and culvert. This opens up quite a bit of the rock climbing. The road is open for pedestrian traffic past the barricades. Those heading for Colchuck or Eightmile will have about two road miles to walk to the bottom of Eightmile road. Inconvenient, but not much compared to the slog up Eightmile road. Dave A. P.S. Rat- your post made me feel stupid. I've seen the road grader parked up there numerous times and knew it was private. Just didn't think. Quote
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