Alasdair Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 I like it better than the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 This seems to imply that the Forest Service now acts as a means for commercial logging interests to exploit publicly owned timber resources for their own financial gain. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Deforest service. Get it right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 The Forest Service has always been about cutting down trees. What really irks me is that they do it at a loss to the taxpayers. Through poor accounting, and questionable accounting practices, they mask the fact that the money they spend on road building and maintenance exceed the value of the timber they sell. Nobody really knows how much money they are losing because according to the GAO, the FS has the worst accounting of any government agency. Clinton's roadless plan was in reality a plan to save the taxpayer money by not building roads. Bush would like to undo that so he can continue to give away public money to the big corporations that support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Clinton's roadless plan was in reality a plan to save the taxpayer money by not building roads. Bush would like to undo that so he can continue to give away public money to the big corporations that support him. show me proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Schuldt Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Very nice, I like it. They will raise the trail pass fee to pay for changeing all their logos. What's next, change smokey to a..... Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alasdair Posted January 13, 2003 Author Share Posted January 13, 2003 Smokey stays the same, they are just going to change his image to apeal to the younger generation by having him drive snowmobiles, ATVs, and the occasional logging truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinc Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 The Forest Service is a branch of the US Dept of Agriculture. Douglas Fir == coniferous corn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 The Forest Service has always been about cutting down trees. What really irks me is that they do it at a loss to the taxpayers. Through poor accounting, and questionable accounting practices, they mask the fact that the money they spend on road building and maintenance exceed the value of the timber they sell. Since when has it been necessary to make a profit from road building? I'll bet I-90 and Highway 20 ended up in the red too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Since when has it been necessary to make a profit from road building? when you sell your product at a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 A cornifer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 In reply to: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Since when has it been necessary to make a profit from road building? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- when you sell your product at a loss. How much of a profit did the government get from building I-90? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 You playing dumb or what? I-90 was built to transport people and commerce over the mountains over many years. The business generated increases tax revenues, which more than make up for the investment. Logging roads are used once to for one purpose and one purpose only to take out cut trees. I'd heard the FS likes to amortize the cost over 50 years so that they can include the value of the next cut in the cost of the road. The only problem is they don't account for what it costs to reopen those roads in 50 years after they've grown over and landslides have taken out most of the roadbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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