fleblebleb Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I once got to drink a glass of red wine from a bottle that was probably somewhere in the $500-$1000 range, it blew me away. Comparing that stuff with a $15 or $50 bottle (or $5) is like comparing vodka and 7-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COL._Von_Spanker Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 But what about a $50 bottle and a $150 bottle? is it 300% better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregm Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 so it looks like the morning's biggest spray topic is wine tasting. my my aren't we a civil crowd all of a sudden. next thing you know the cascades will have a reputation as the kind of place where you can leave a pack someplace and come back to find that someone's left a chocolate mint on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 There are a few animals out there that will leave some chocolate on yr stuff fuh ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Spanker: The answer depends on who is buying. To Bill Gates, I bet the $150 bottle is well worth it - and if he has a well developed palette, he can probably honestly tell you it is three times as good. You and I may react as Fleb did - that it is a whole different breed of wine (assuming we have chosen a $150 bottle that suits our individual tastes) but how can we say it is 2x, 3x, or 5x as good. Is Outer Space 1.5x as good as Orbit because it has an extra star in the guidebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 7, 2003 Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 (edited) Mr. Chocolate, perhaps you're right about the high-dollar to high-quality ratio for Pinots, however, DFA has tasted a few Pinots, not all of them cheap, and they all seem to lean toward the "leathery" (as you say) end of the scale, with most parked more firmly in the neighborhood of "musty basement." Even if a pricier PN magnifies and smooths out that characteristic, it's still not the Doctor's preferred area of flavor. Big fruit flavors and spice or chocolate type of things, but you can keep the musty and the leathery. Ick. But enough of dinner wines, who's up for a glass of Port? Edited January 7, 2003 by Dr_Flash_Amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 mattp, Also of note is the relativity of $150 immediately after you have had the first two glasses of a really good wine. Many a second, unaffordable bottle has been ordered in this manner. Also, it was Ovid way back in Rome, in Ars Amatoria (a "player's guide" written 2000 years ago), who wrote "beware of the low lights and wine" when trolling for the ladies. We know that today as the trask phenomenon, or coyote-ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Ah yes, shitty wine gets a lot better if you just stick with it. Too bad there is such pain in the wake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 ...with the pain from red being infinitely worse. Too much white upsets the guts. But too much red is a form of torture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 7, 2003 Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 Hmm ... moderation, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COL._Von_Spanker Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Point taken Matt, I am only playing devils advocate here. Really expensive wine is a lifestyle as much as it is taste. It's like fancy watches, most watches will give you the correct time, but that tag huer is so nice lookin'. Another point about wine relativity also related to above mentioned point, if you buy by the wine spectator ratings you can get $10 bottles that a rated just as high as many more expensive bottles. Always serve the expensive shit first cause you won't notice the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 No silly, lack of moderation is the key to enjoying cheap wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Come to think of it, lack of moderation is also an excellent way to enjoy pub club! Pub Club tonight, WOOO-HOOOO! (Now I better make it down there, right? Just making sure I have a damn strong case when my wife starts wondering what I'm doing this fine evening) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 7, 2003 Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 "the moral of the story is don't use your better judgement 'cause what good is an evening if you can even remember just hooooowwww it was? Totally fucked!" - NOFX, 'Totally Fucked' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Tell her you are going to a wine-tasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 That wouldn't really serve any purpose, because whenever the Icelandic students at UW meet it's called winetasting too. (That's how I know so much about improving cheap wine through imbibing greater quantities you know...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Check your local Trader Joes for "Charles Shaw". The rumor is that it's a selloff from United Airlines. At $2/bottle, it's damn good wine. I've heard this wine reffered to as the "two buck chuck" at a dinner party last Saturday night. It's creepy you heathens know about it. and just what in the hell is this guy supposed to be doing? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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